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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (3 children)

suspect slate is just making this up entirely, based on anecdotal experience. They go on to claim that the big recipients of these wage increases are the lowest paid workers. Does that mean minimum wage earners got some 50% increase to now make $12/hr? News flash: that still doesn’t afford you groceries in today’s economy.

I mean they "aren't" in that they've got citations, but its important to dig into that.

President Joe Biden spent most of his recent State of the Union address celebrating his economic record, with good reason. There is no denying the numbers: The United States currently enjoys the highest rate of economic growth among nations in the G7, the lowest inflation, and the strongest wage growth. The unemployment rate hasn’t been this low for this long in half a century. Even accounting for inflation, wages are higher today than they were before the coronavirus pandemic, and the biggest wage gains have accrued among the lowest-paid workers, resulting in a dramatic reduction in overall wage inequality. The economy is even outperforming among communities that are often excluded from boom-time gains. Biden has overseen the lowest Black unemployment rate on record and the lowest ever unemployment rate for workers with disabilities. The American economy isn’t perfect, but by any historical standard it is very, very good.

Salon is treating these metrics as fixed objects with some magical immutable definition. But the reality is that we've simply redefined what these tools mean, and then accepted the redefinition as if it always meant that. But quite literally, the way these numbers are calculated have been redefined to be basically useless. Look at inflation and CPI: http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts. I can go backwards from my grocery receipts and look at what individual items cost me. We've seen at LEAST 10% annual inflation on basically every item on our grocery bill since 2019-2020. Almost every item is 40% more expensive than it was with some items being almost doubled in price.

Look at unemployment, where the Fed conveniently just ignore long term unemployment: https://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts. We lost union jobs for 401ks, then we lost full time jobs with benefits for the gig economy. Shits fucked and we've got the Feds and Salon blowing sunshine up our asses.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Right, these record unemployment and CPI numbers are derived by changing the calculations, it’s amazing how quickly that’s been forgotten. This is the true power of controlling the narrative of the American propaganda machine.

For those “enjoying” this record employment, it still means busting ass working 2-3 low paying jobs just to barely make ends meet. Those same jobs won’t let you get above 32 hours either, so forget about benefits afforded to full time employees, such as marginally more affordable healthcare. And over 62% of Americans are literally living paycheck to paycheck, unable to afford an emergency $400 expense. Good thing they have backup financing available at payday lenders on every street corner I suppose…

It’s really sad how brutal America is to its own citizens. And mind boggling how twisted Americans are to deny this is happening at all until they’re blue in the face. Open your eyes and your ears people, think for yourself, and question authority.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I knew there had to be something fishy considering the video game industry alone has laid off 30,000 people in the past 2 years - 20,000 last year and a further 10,000 in January and February alone of this year.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This really illustrates the original problem. One point of view can look at overall statistics and say things are going great while the other point t of view can focus on job instability affecting real people.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the things that really stand out to me on this particular example are the quotes from people in the industry saying that it's the worst instability in the industry in the past 15 years (so since the 2008 recession) in an industry know for its lack of job stability (it used to almost be guaranteed that devs would be laid off after a project finished) and that up to 73% of developers say that they've been affected by the layoffs, either being laid off themselves or somebody they know getting laid off like members of their team.

I watch a lady on YouTube who works for Sony who said that the average time to find a new job is 2 months, and that with the number of layoffs it's very likely that many of these developers will never work in the industry again.

It's just another example of the situations like companies bragging about record-breaking profits while an increasing number of people making six-figure salaries are living paycheck to paycheck.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

2 months is not all that long to find a new job but yeah.

I’ve had both shorter and longer in the past. However this time I

  • own a house
  • have a car payment
  • my first kid in college
  • second soon
  • excessive car insurance to cover two teen drivers
  • child support to my ex

I would have a real hard time handling that with any disruption of my income. Not quite paycheck to paycheck, but there’s a lot of expenses I haven’t had for most of my life and the cap on unemployment benefits means I wouldn’t come close. Most of these will be gone in less than six years so I just need to not be laid off for that time

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Right, these record unemployment and CPI numbers are derived by changing the calculations…

P-Hacking?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

P-hacking is adjusting your data, but the formulation of the P-value statistic doesn't change.

Here they just straight up changed the recipe.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for these helpful links, but I don't see any problem with the inflation chart. The claim of lowest in half a century is false either way.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I think I'm just echoing your points, but I wanted to add that 'inflation' or 'CPI' aren't immutable mathematical constructs. The statistics the article is citing have taken on more convenient to the status quo interpretations over time, to the point of being kind of devoid of meaning.

For example, real unemployment having gone up and never really down after every major financial crisis, yet we're being told 'unemployment is at its lowest point ever'.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My favorite is they always treat inflation like a static thing. 2 percent this year means 3 percent last year doesn't matter. You should be happy. But the reality is that's 5 percent inflation versus whatever raise you did, (or didn't) get in the same time period.

3 percent inflation now doesn't erase 10 percent inflation in previous years. We need to be deflating. But that's a dirty word because a lot of important people get their income steam from constant inflation.