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[–] Mastema@infosec.pub 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

For commercial offerings this is probably true for at least some of them, but creating your own VPN isn't terribly difficult if you are serious about your privacy. I typically just use them when I travel to countries like China where I can't get to a bunch of necessary services, so I don't mind if they route my YouTube traffic through CIA headquarters, but if I was doing anything more than that I would just set up my own.

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

Part of the point of a VPN is there's not a dedicated IP tied to you (or at least tying all of your activity together). That doesn't provide any benefit besides a corporate/government firewall bypass unless a mass of people are using your server.

[–] Link@rentadrunk.org 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But then you don’t get the benefit of having increased privacy due to lots of people using the same IP.

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Linka? Long shot, but message me if it's you.

[–] Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Which vpn have you found to work in china? Nord used to but doesn't any more

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I almost never trust any site that advertises any kind of VPN service (it's always ranked by the best paying referrals) but this mirrors what I've seen in discussions.

From https://www.cloudwards.net/best-vpn-services-for-china/

Preferred VPN Choice: The general consensus among VPN users in China is that Astrill VPN is the most reliable option. However, it’s an incredibly expensive VPN, so it’s worth trying other cheaper options first. Surfshark is our top choice for best VPN for China as it has a solid reputation for working in the country while also offering affordable plans.

Alternative VPN Options: Other good options for China include CyberGhost, Proton VPN, Widscribe and Mullvad. NordVPN is also an option, but it’s not as reliable in China as the other six, so we only recommend it if you already have an account.

Censorship Evasion Strategy: Since VPNs are in a running battle with censorship, we recommend subscribing to multiple VPNs to ensure you have coverage at all times. No matter which VPNs you use, make sure you download them before going to China, as the download pages are often blocked.

[–] Mastema@infosec.pub 11 points 10 months ago

Astrill is the only consistent one and I have to server hop at times.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 months ago

No problem, just use a VPN to connect to it from another country! Wait.....

[–] randombullet@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Could you use outline servers?

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Less and less vpn and vps companies provide services for mainland citizen. The main reason I heard of is when their server got blocked by the great firewall, those customers would immediately perform chargeback to get their money back even though it's not the fault of the providers. You lose money on chargeback fees which means accepting mainland customers is very risky for them.

[–] Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 10 months ago

If that's the case, that's understandable. It's always going to be a game of cat and mouse, so Id expect it's quite an expensive market to break in to.

[–] crazyCat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What homespun protocols you using from China? The regular ones like OpenVPN get blocked yeah.

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

There are a ton of obfuscating protocols that a VPN can run. obfs is one of the most popular. You can configure your VPN to appear as basically any traffic. HTTPS, DNS, QUIK.