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[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 130 points 2 years ago (4 children)

And the NSA quietly installed their own.

[–] Baahb@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

malware is what gave the DOJ the ability to do this, so yeah,

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

I like to imagine that one arm of the American surveillance state started the exploit and the DOJ wrapped it up only after Fancy Bear noticed exploitable routers. I mean, there wasn't any evidence that this originated from Russia in the article, just the assertion that it was so. Who's checking?

[–] AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Honest question: Assuming nation states have the all-powerful ability to install software on your networking gear, which country would you rather have? USA or Russia?

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (4 children)

is switching to Cups and String an option?

[–] AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I hear pigeons aren't too hard to breed.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

They taste good BBQ'd too.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Closest thing we have is end to end encryption mixed with services like tor to obfuscate our positions. Privacy is no longer opt out and is increasingly harder to achieve.

[–] grilledcheesecowboy@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

That's already been hacked by the NSA

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Cup with string attach to ball is number one game on Siberian winternet.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 years ago

Zimbabwe. I feel like they'd have a harder time doing any real damage to me

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 10 points 2 years ago

Useless redirection.

If you have one then you'll have both.

[–] trebuchet@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you're in the USA it seems clearly better to have Russian since they can do much less to affect your life and vice versa.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

If the US government wants to spy on you, they have boots on the ground. Russia has been involved with ransomeware campaigns.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Same, rather get spied on from someone across the ocean you know? At least they won't arrest me.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

The country you live in.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The greatest malware ever installed was the idea that we shouldn't fear our governments and should trust them implicitly.