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[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 52 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you have something to say, actually explain it instead of the obnoxious emoji spam.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's completely off-topic, but you know 4chan filters? Like, replacing "fam" with "senpai" and stuff like this?

So. It would be damn great if Lemmy had something similar. Except that it would replace emojis, "lol" and "lmao" with "I'm braindead."

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That extension is fun, but it doesn't "gently shame" the person spamming emojis by replacing their emojis with "I'm braindead" in a way that themself would see.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How do I edit someone else's post

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Contrariwise to your blatant assumption, I'm not proposing a system where users can edit each others' posts. I'm just toying with the idea of word filters, not too different from the ones that already exist for slurs in Lemmy.

For example. If you write [insert slur here], it gets replaced with removed. What if it replaced emojis with "I'm braindead."? That's it.

(Before yet another assumer starts doing its shit: the idea is not too serious.)

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Aren’t they effective when used sparingly 😕

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They would be less obnoxious if used sparingly, but they wouldn't be effective unless the reason why they're used changed, from graphical echo ("I saw a cat today 🐱") and mood/attitude particles (like you did) to ideographic usage (e.g. "I saw a 🐱 today"). Plus they're still colourful and attention-grabbing drawings within text, they detract attention from the text itself.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can’t distractions from the text sometimes be exactly what you want?

And have you seen an emoji perfectly complete a meme when being used for mood? How about convey lighthearted intent when discussing a serious subject?

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They can but most of the time they aren't. That's the key here: most of the time emojis only add noise, to the point that the shreds of legitimate usage (that can be conveyed through other means) don't really justify keeping the cons of the noise.

It isn't like anyone would implement my idea though. I'm mostly doing like that old man screaming at the sky, or something like this.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What is the point that you're trying to convey by relexing "old man screaming at the sky" to use emojis?

If the point is that "they could be used to convey meaning": I've already addressed it. Usually, they aren't. (If the point is something else, please clarify.)

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t you agree the perfect reply to:

Emoji are pretty dumb, but I guess I’m just an old fart about it.

…is a string of emoji? :)

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If that was my point, it would be a great answer.

However my point is not against the usage of emojis to convey linguistic meaning, like that. (It's a bit pointless, but at least you're saying something through the emojis.)

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well of the three usages:

  • graphical echo ("I saw a cat today 🐱")

  • mood/attitude particles (“I wish I were just a cat 😕”)

  • ideographic usage ("I saw a 🐱 today")

The echo is almost certainly the least useful.

When overused gratuitously, it can be funny (NSFW examples included)!

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 8 months ago

That overuse feels a lot like a fourth category. It's almost meta-, as if using emojis to parody emoji usage!

I'm not sure if it's usage for echo or as mood particles makes me roll my eyes the most. Perhaps echo, too.

Are you a linguist? Fabulous descriptive capabilities you have there.

More like "ability to remember vocab from uni times" (My second grad included Linguistics, although I don't work on the field nowadays.)

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Are you a linguist? Fabulous descriptive capabilities you have there.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.cafe 2 points 9 months ago

That would be amazing.