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Why Green Skyscrapers are a Terrible Idea – Adam Something (www.youtube.com)
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“Because green skyscrapers and high-rises are a bullshit non-solution to serious systemic problems.”

“But if you want greenery on a building nonetheless, do I have an idea for you – a portable, modular, scalable solution called ‘potted plants on your balcony’.”

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[–] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The issue I was trying (and failing) to get at is the additional weight the building now has to support on top of everything else a building normally has to support. However, it doesn't seem to be a big deal judging by everyone's replies.

[–] HanzAndHisFlammenwerfer@eviltoast.org 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Short info https://www.bbr-server.de/bauarchivddr/archiv/dokumente/3-4-17-wohnungsbauserie-wbs70.pdf

The blueprints https://bauarchivddr.bbr-server.de/bauarchivddr/archiv/dokumente/3-4-01-2-wohnungsbauserie-wbs-70-6-3-t.pdf

This is the blueprints of a pre modern apartment building (its in German but you could use chat pdf if you need translation) more modern buildings use these as basis (modified versions of course) as these block buildings are modular, cheap, very resistant and reliable. They can definitely support the extra weight of some plants on the facade, nobody wants to plant trees on the building, that wouldn't necessarily be a weight problem but rather a problem with the roots damaging the building, and you can't really stop tree roots, maybe some smaller trees but definitely not Oaks or Fruit trees.

[–] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That’s awesome, thanks for the info!

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I have no idea. Not an architectural engineer.

My assumption would be that they have to build the building to a code that has a minimum weight requirements.

Male Humans are generally averaging about 80kg.

If you have a party and have 10 - 15 over. That's a lot of weight. Not all the time but I think if every apartment had a few plants then the weight would still be less than having a party.

Or that was my assumption anyway. I know balconies have a weight limit, as there was a story about a party and too many people were out on it and it collapsed