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“I’m fine with Asians, but Russians are Asians. They have a completely different culture, vision. Our key difference from them is humanity.”

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[–] Firemyth@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't you guys think all Ukrainians are nazis?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No? I think there is a Nazi problem, but that's it.

Though uh, the Ukrainian security chief is sounding like a Nazi here...

[–] Firemyth@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again thanks for highlighting exactly my point. Baseless nonsense as cconsumed from russia one. You guys are amazing.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He's literally saying Russians = Asians = subhuman

Like???

[–] Firemyth@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen one article parroted by Russian propaganda engines saying thus. Never seen a video or any other sources saying it.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1687461201565868032

here's the video, can't confirm the translation of course but if you want to try and find a russian speaker to translate this for you to disprove us go ahead

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbf they last posted before I responded, probably havent seen it yet. Still, based on their behavior in the rest of the thread, I’m expecting either silence or some insane goalpost shift

[–] Firemyth@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What he said was that Russians aren't like Ukrainians. More Asian than Ukrainians are and that they think differently.

Context is important and your poorly translated version is NOT what he's saying. He's not saying all Asians are subhuman- he's saying they have a different past and are influenced by it. He's saying Russians are more violent based on where they come from and the past they've had. This is something he hadn't counted on etc.. etc.. etc.. since this is just a clip I don't know where he was going with it. But it sounds more like he saying ukrainian military is more humane with regards to how they treat people than the russians.

MY point is that you and your type will just say a thing based purely on propaganda.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

are you claiming to be able to speak Russian?

[–] Firemyth@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm claiming to be able to understand enough plus have a Russian speaking partner to back me.up

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

btw I just want you to know that even your supposed different translation is insane,

More Asian than Ukrainians ...

...

... He’s saying Russians are more violent based on where they come from and the past they’ve had

Wtf does being "more Asian" mean? This is in the same vein as the nazi "asiatic hordes" bullshit

[–] Firemyth@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really don't know where he was going with it. I admit it was probably poorly worded but it definitely wasn't what you guys are trying to paint it as. I can speculate-as I've already done.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know where he's going with it, he's dehumanizing them, there's no other reason to paint them as "more Asian" it's literally a fucking Nazi dog whistle that Russians are barbaric Asians

[–] Firemyth@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah again. Thanks for making my point. You guys just keep drinking russia one

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

do you have no knowledge of WW2? this isn't something Russians came up with???

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Will you listen to yourself projecting European raciasm onto your enemies? No one has ever said Ukrainians are Nazis nor have they have ever said the existence of Nazis in Ukraine is a function of their culture and their genetics. What we have said is that Ukraine has neo-Nazi movements in it that trace their lineage all the back to the Third Reich and that the US has armed, funded, trained, and organized these Nazi groups because they are useful to US strategic aims. We then couple that with the historical fact that the US has voted against the resolutions condemning the glorification of Nazis at the UN multiple times, and we show how the "democratic" government that was ushered in on a US-backed coup incorporated the Nazi elements, giving them legitimacy, political cover, access to more weapons, training, and funding, and sending a clear signal to the world that Nazism is both acceptable and useful in the battle for total European dominance of the region as part of the larger US project for total domination of the world, which the US inherited from European colonial powers.

The de-nazification that we wish to see in Ukraine is the destruction of the support systems that enable these neo-Nazis to continue to operate, expand, recruit, and propagandize.

None of this is based on anything even resembling the racism of the West, and to suggest as much as to tell on yourself how much you believe the Western propaganda that everyone acts like the West. It's just not true.