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[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Don't fuck with global trade. Your cause can be a shining beacon of righteousness, but take out trading routes you get the big boy stick. Always has been like that.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Whilst I agree with your point on why this is happenning, after what happenned in Afghanistan, I'm not quite sure of the effectiveness of what you named "big boy stick" against people who have little to lose and have spent over a decade being hit by such a "stick" only yielded by a mate if said "big boy".

A lot of what I'm reading here is the same "America, yeah!" stuff as before the invasion of Afghanistan - nationalistic enthusiasm rather than anything thought through.

Looking at the hostorical track record, it's a little premature to celebrate the effectiveness of this.

[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Huthis have been launching ballistic missiles across country lines and target (among other things) international shipping lanes somewhat recently. They're not soldering up IEDs in caves to fend of a US invasion force, so I'm not sure how apt the comparison with Afghanistan is.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

All indications are that they're getting their Tech from Iran.

So ultimatelly to stop this you have to stop that Tech coming from Iran. Also we don't know how deep their current stockpiles are so even if the former is achieved and sustained without boots on the ground, how long does it have to be kept.

All this has a lot broader implications than the kind of talk I'm seeing around the whole situation: I mean US and UK politicians are treating this as almost One Bombing = Mission Accomplished.

My point is that the stated objectives aren't likelly to be achieved by just this one military action (as it's hardly the first time the Houthis get hit by British and American bombs so they're hardly going to "see the error of their ways" on just this) and as of now it's unclear how far things will have to go and if and how far will it spread.

[–] CanadaPlus 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean, I don't even see a contradiction with OP there. The big boy stick comes out, Western politicians are seen doing something and don't get blamed for the higher prices on "TIEMAM banana-shaped egg holder for children yellow plastic food container", a few of the non-Western brown guys die, but not most of them, and history continues. I don't think that there's a good reason was implied.