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[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like a heap of crap. X.Org developers moved to Wayland, they were the ones who made it happen. Now, I wonder where this dude with his XOrg Forks and PhD and shit was during all that 15 years it took to conceptualize wayland.

You all need a lesson in taking everything people say, including and most importantly their qualifications with a huge grain of salt.

Wayland has been working perfectly for years now. Many of the supposedly "impossible to implement" functions of the old hunk of junk Xorg were either found to be bogus anyways or have been made available on Wayland.

Sincerely-- Someone who's been using wayland since 2016

[–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

X.Org developers moved to Wayland, they were the ones who made it happen.

But did they bring the same mistakes with them?

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Wayland has been working perfectly for years now.

Not for every one. For example, I still get random black screens with only mouse trails, windows disappearing, and videos not playing properly. Why yes, I do have an Nvidia card, thank you for asking.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

After finally realizing nobody is interested in EGLstreams, Nvidia seems to be on track to make their drivers less of a disaster for Wayland support, so thankfully it is bound to become better

I just want you to know, this isn't a failure on anything other than Nvidia trying to force their own crap on everyone and failing

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm on AMD and had so many issues with Wayland. A lot of games were straight up unplayable due to the amount of issues and some other applications straight up not compatible while scaling is also still a freaking mess. Saying Wayland has been working perfectly for years just feels like clownery and is kinda insulting to everyone who experiences those problems.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This also depends on the desktop you use. GNOME is by far the most stable [In My Experience], and KDE spent the whole 5.x series getting their Wayland support into shape. What you're describing could be XWayland failures (games don't run on Wayland lol) and desktop environment bugs.

Depending on how long ago you're talking about, your hardware, and your desktop of choice, things might've been improved a lot since the last time you used a Wayland session.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

I made a post about my Gnome experiences already, which were just terrible due to how unstable the apps were and how it lacked a ton of even very basic features that I needed. So if their Wayland support is better, it's completely overshadowed by how shitty everything else is.

Most of the issues were a year or two ago, but I every now and then switched to Wayland to see if things got better and returned to X within like hours due to issues just around the "desktop".