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YouTube suspends Russell Brand from making money off his channel — The suspension comes following the publication of rape and sexual assault allegations against the British star::YouTube has blocked Russell Brand from making money off its platform and the BBC pulled some of his shows from its online streaming service in the wake of rape and sexual assault allegations against the comedian-turned-influencer.

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[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's not the point.

If someone made an allegation against you, would you expect your employer to sack you first and ask questions later or would you like the chance to defend yourself legally first?

[–] Trae@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Dude, people get fired all the time after being arrested or accused of a heinous act. All of this well before ever going to trial. Businesses don't have to and often won't keep someone on that is a risk to their company, culture, or brand identity.

It absolutely sucks that people can lose their livelihood over "he said / she said", but the fact is that it happens all the time.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 13esq@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago
[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If I was was accused of something awful yes I'd be fired. That how life works, doesn't make it fair. The reason? Because 9 times out of 10 it's true.

Why do you want a potential rapist to get special privileges?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally every human on the planet is a "potential rapist".

So by your rhetoric nobody should be able to be employed or have a YouTube channel.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

By your incel logic only proven rapists would ever suffer a single consequence of any type. You'd probably support a law that bans even making the accusation publicly until after a conviction. And this is one of many reasons women should avoid you.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your now assuming my political position and not addressing my words. We can disagree, I just ask you not insult me.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah pretend not to understand the point I'm making, intentionally read words literally and ignore context, but it's indeed me who is insulting here

[–] jet@hackertalks.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We cannot have a functional discussion if personal attacks and insults are involved. At that point how can we establish good faith discord?

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We cannot have a functional discussion if you are arguing in bad faith, which you obviously did. This would not be recoverable at this point so no need to reply

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 1 year ago

I assure you I haven't not been acting in bad faith.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think that the democratic principle of innocent until proven guilty is special treatment, nor do I think that the right to a fair trial is special treatment.

God forbid, you ever get falsely accused of anything nefarious, you'll deserve the treatment that you condone.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org -1 points 1 year ago

And by extension, you obviously expect to be accused of something like this, because you are bending over backwards to defend a probable rapist.

Innocent until proven guilty was NEVER applied anywhere but a legal context and your willful attempts at ignoring that fact when presented it, indicate you're exactly as suspect as you originally came off. Great job.