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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is it really genocide if there's at least a few left?

[–] livus@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Of course it is. There are still Armenians, German Jewish people, Rwandan Tutsis, Rohingya, and no one disputes that they were genocided.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We're all being ironic, I think. In reality, if your goal is to make an ethnic group smaller so you don't have to deal with them as much, that's genocide, or at least ethnic cleansing. No specific number is required.

Also, FYI, Jews across continental Europe had a bad time. Anywhere the Nazis went genocide followed, so you don't really need to specify German.

[–] livus@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ethnic cleansing is the forceable displacement of ethnic-group populations. Deliberately killing members of an ethnic group (or otherwise trying to destroy that group) is genocide, but unfortunately nations and news outlets are shy about using that word, so the overlap has led to confusion of the two terms.

FYI

Thanks, point worth making. My list wasn't meant to be exhaustive. Jewish people had a bad time in that continent long before Nazis as well. Hell even some of the early Crusaders went and committed genocide against Jewish towns in the Rhineland Massacres of the 11th century.

I was just cherry-picking a few obvious genocides to illustrate my point, in case the person above was being serious.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I know it's dark humor, and I kind of hate myself for even thinking this. But now I'm seeing a far side style comic with a group of soldiers standing around, arguing over not wanting to kill the last Palestinian, because that's what makes it genocide.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sometimes my sense of humour seems lost on some people. Maybe because I was raised on Far Side.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, but then the countries of the world need to brutally stomp out the aggressor of the genocide, and need to forcibly give the victims of the genocide the plot of land they claim as their original home.