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讨论中国的地方。

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零、台湾、西藏、新疆、和香港都是中国的一部分。

一、不要跑题。

二、友善对待同志。

三、不要传播谣言或偏执思想。

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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by qwename@lemmygrad.ml to c/china@lemmygrad.ml
 
 

As mentioned in the post (https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5205977) discussing a rule about anti-promotion of drugs and other substances:

If a lot of people oppose this rule, either by downvotes and/or number of comments, I will willingly step down as moderator of this community.

I didn't see a large opposition to this rule which has now been deleted (see https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5220158), but I will pass the moderator position back to the instance admins nevertheless, specifically to @GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml who gave me the position when I requested it months ago. This post can be used to select new moderators by leaving a comment if you're interested. I will also take part in applying to become a mod.

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I'm sure some have seen the discussion around a new rule against the promotion of various substances in this community. This will be the summary based on data collected at this snapshot in time.

Post score (upvotes/downvotes): 33/19 (Note that hexbear users cannot downvote)

Number of users who left comments (including me): 21

Number of comments: 51 = 19 (left by me) + 32 (others)

The following is a crude categorization of the 32 comments left by others, each category begins with the name and a 4-tuple of (number of unique users, number of comments, total comment upvotes, maximum upvotes obtained by a single comment). If the same user left multiple comments that are categorized the same, only the comment with the highest upvote will be counted when tallying upvotes, the rest are excluded.

  • Agree (2 users, 4 comments, 7 upvotes total, 4 upvotes max): Comments that agree without giving an explanation, 2 comments excluded from upvotes total.
  • Agree because history (2 users, 2 comments, 16 upvotes total, 11 upvotes max) : Comments that agree and mention China's history.
  • Agree because history but questionable (2 users, 2 comments, 20 upvotes total, 14 upvotes max) : Comments that agree because of China's history, but raised questions
  • Disagree (2 users, 2 comments, 16 upvotes total, 9 upvotes max)
  • Medical (4 users, 7 comments, 29 upvotes total, 8 upvotes max) : Comments that mention medical properties of certain substances, or their normal use in certain cultures.
  • Abstain (1 user, 1 comment, 7 upvotes total, 7 upvotes max)
  • Others: Discuss rule (4 users, 7 comments), Joke (5 users, 5 comments), Off-topic (1 user, 2 comments)

The data show that most people agree to the rule partially due to China's history, but also question the necessity of having this rule and it's phrasing. Some people raised valid points about the medical properties of certain substances, and discussed changes to the rule to accommodate those points. Disagreements were seen mostly in downvotes or questions about the rule, only a few users left comments explicitly opposing the rule.

Overall I would conclude that there isn't a strong consensus to keep this new rule, especially not in its original phrasing, and modifications to the rule have not been thoroughly discussed. There has also not been any evidence to an urgent need for the rule. Thus the rule will be deleted from the community rules in the spirit of democratic centralism.

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(Note that this post might be updated over time, do not cross-post it by copying the contents as it might become outdated)

There are already well-known platforms like marxists.org that have a comprehensive collection of the works of various Marxists, but they have yet to include prominent figures like Xi Jinping. As this is a community on China, this post will focus primarily on the works of Chinese Communists from official Chinese websites. The available Chinese resources are more comprehensive than English resources.

English resources

  • Qiushi Journal (http://en.qstheory.cn) - English Edition of 求是杂志, a CPC Central Committee Bimonthly. Please note that this website does not support HTTPS!
  • National People's Congress (http://en.npc.gov.cn.cdurl.cn/) - English version of 中国人大网. Please note that this website does not support HTTPS!
  • Theory China (https://en.theorychina.org.cn) - English version of 理论中国网, website by the History and Literature Research Institute of the CPC Central Committee (中共中央党史和文献研究院)
    • The section titled "Leaders' Works" includes: selected works of Mao Zedong 毛泽东, Zhou Enlai 周恩来, Liu Shaoqi 刘少奇, Zhu De 朱德, Deng Xiaoping 邓小平, Chen Yun 陈云, Jiang Zemin 江泽民. Only includes a few of the works by Hu Jintao 胡锦涛 and Xi Jinping 习近平.
    • The books are read through a browser ebook reader interface. Text can be selected and copied by first clicking on the "T" icon at the bottom-right corner for "Select Text" (on mobile, you have to tap on the circle with three dots first), then selecting the passage desired and clicking on the "Copy" button that appears near the cursor.

Chinese resources

  • 学习强国 (https://www.xuexi.cn) - website by 中共中央宣传部 (Publicity Department of CPC Central Committee), in the section titled "学习理论":
    • 学习全书: Includes the works of 马恩 (Marx and Engels), 列宁 Lenin, 毛泽东 Mao Zedong, 邓小平 Deng Xiaoping, 江泽民 Jiang Zemin, 胡锦涛 Hu Jintao, 习近平 Xi Jinping.
    • 新时代 新经典: Comprehensive list of works by 习近平 Xi Jinping, including works published pre-2012 before he became 总书记 (General Secretary).
  • 理论中国网 (https://www.theorychina.org.cn/) - website by the History and Literature Research Institute of the CPC Central Committee (中共中央党史和文献研究院)
  • 中央党史和文献研究院网 (https://www.dswxyjy.org.cn/) - website of History and Literature Research Institute of the CPC Central Committee
    • The section titled "成果总库" includes the works of more Chinese Communists than those in 学习全书 above, but some books still require Adobe Flash Player to be viewed.
  • 宣讲家网 (http://www.71.cn/) - website by 中共北京市委宣传部 (Publicity Department of CPC Beijing Municipal Committee). Please note that this website does not support HTTPS!
    • The section titled "经典文献" includes the works of 马恩 (Marx and Engels), 列宁 Lenin, 毛泽东 Mao Zedong, 周恩来 Zhou Enlai, 刘少奇 Liu Shaoqi, 朱德 Zhu De, 邓小平 Deng Xiaoping, 陈云 Chen Yun, 任弼时 Ren Bishi, 江泽民 Jiang Zemin

Chinese audiobooks

  • 共产党员网 (https://www.12371.cn/) - website by 中央组织部 (Organization Department of the CPC Central Committee)
    • The sections titled "思想理论" and "理论学习有声书" contains audiobooks for the works of 毛泽东 Mao Zedong, 邓小平 Deng Xiaoping, 江泽民 Jiang Zemin, 胡锦涛 Hu Jintao, 习近平 Xi Jinping

Other languages

  • Theory China (website by the History and Literature Research Institute of the CPC Central Committee, 中共中央党史和文献研究院) is available in these languages: 中文, English, Français, Pусский, Español, Deutsch, 日本語, العربية. They all have the corresponding section for "Leaders' Works", but there may be less translated works depending on the language.
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This is not a troll-post; I am genuinely curious about why this is the case. When I asked DeepSeek AI some Western propaganda questions like "Is Taiwan a country" and "What happened on Tiananmen Square 1989", it refuses to answer.

This is strange because on other Chinese sites like Baidu, you can easily search these topics and get answers from the non-Western, Chinese point of view that are very educational, yet DeepSeek for some reason flags these questions. I've only tested this out with the English version since I unfortunately am not fluent in Chinese.

Does anyone have any possible explanation for why this may be the case?

Edit: After some further investigation, I'm seeing that the AI's political views tend to be pretty liberal and only a little to the left of ChatGPT. In this context, I can see why it refuses to answer these questions in an attempt to prevent the spread of disinformation.

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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by vehicom@lemmygrad.ml to c/china@lemmygrad.ml
 
 

So over the past year or two I've read a LOT on china. I thought it might be a bit inappropriate not to share with ya'll. I've definitely read much more, but these are the ones that are the most memorable/I've saved. These won't be organized in any sort of way, but each article will be accompanied by a short description.

Personally I wouldn't treat this as a checklist to read, but just read what you find interesting and go from there. I think it would be incredibly cool if people drop more resources here in the comments and this becomes a one-stop shop for China resources.

I just made an effort-comment and I thought, huh I haven't made an effort-post in quite a bit, so here we are.

Qiao Collective

I've practically read every single article published by qiao collective and I cannot recommend it enough as a place to get started. https://www.qiaocollective.com/ A few in particular I will point to

Shattering the Iron Wall about China, Palestine, and Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar.

This is a Great Struggle About lenovo, compradors, and socialist construction.

The Revival of Capital and the Left Turn of the Mental Laborer. Amazing piece on the history and development of chinese capital, and how material conditions radicalize(or de-radicalize?, because becoming a commie in china is conforming rather than being non-conformist?) people. Material analysis of internal contradictions and the contradiction of capitalist and marxist thought in China itself. If you can't tell by how long this description is I love this article.

Why Rebel? A chinese person looks at america and goes like god damn ya'll's contradictions r bad there.

American “Revolution”: The “Black Hole” of American Electioneering and the Lessons China Must Draw A (different) chinese person looks at america's electoral system, goes god damn, and gives a very good analysis of how it serves to placate dissent.

I love the chinese person looks at america and writes an analysis genre, there's another on the texas snowstorm and american covid response, but for the sake of brevity I won't delve into them.

How Chinese Socialism is Defeating the Coronavirus Outbreak

The Metamorphosis of Yuangudui, a piece on poverty alleviation.

I linked a bit more of Qiao Collective than I intended, but I truly stand by my statement that they've done some truly good work translating and writing articles.

Inside China Business

I really do quite enjoy his channel and analysis. I've heard from some other people here that he has some bad takes, but those bad takes don't make it onto his analysis videos. I am a regular viewer of the channel and would recommend if you like stuff on industry.

CGTN Documentaries

The lockdown: One month in Wuhan , on the Wuhan pandemic response.

China's war on poverty (Must watch), a documentary behind the process of the campaign on poverty alleviation. It's genuinely incredibly well thought out and incredibly uplifting to see the amazing work being done. Again, please watch this it's incredible I think.

Gay Leap Forward: LGBT in China

More Articles

Let a Hundred Flowers Bloom: My Experience of China Today (2024) good account of the development that china has gone through

Article on Xi Jinping Thought .

"Managed competition" in China's state firms

How a Chinese Engineer on the Ground Reveal About China-Africa Relation?

For my chinese-american comrades, a poignant reflection on chinese-americanness in the modern day.

Giving immigrant workers urban identities: what can be done?. On the Hukou system.

Is High-speed Rail in China a "Gray Rhino"?, tl;dr, no.

Ma Dugong: glad that we are all clowns in different makeup. Not directly related to Communism but a good read.

How Chinese TVs chip away at U.S. market shares

How China Is Like the 19th Century U.S.

Chinese economy hinges on market reform & rule of law, NOT monetary or fiscal policy, says Zhang Weiying. Very interesting take that I haven't had the time to re-read and digest but interested to hear other people's thoughts on.

shanzhai. on counterfeit, and open source

Authors/Blogs to check out

CriticalResist. CriticalResist, in the case that you are reading this, love your articles and keep up the good work. Your article about design has actually helped me in college as well, it's always a treat to see you pop up in my inbox.

Construction Physics, not exclusively about china, but some good writing about china, and just construction in general.

East is Read Good articles to keep up with china news.

Bejing Channel, just some news.

Crossing the River. Very much a blog type author. Hear about china and real chinese people through the author's experiences.

Ginger River Review. Explainers and things about chinese society.

Threadings not about china(sorry!), but I absolutely adore their work.

Red Sails, good articles would reccomend

dessalines. Not about china but very good primer to people to, hey maybe capitalism isn't all that great.

The East is Still Red - Book. decent. Red Star over China. Account of the CPC before the revolution.

In Defense of the Soviet Union. Not about china either, but good video.

Dongsheng news, but their website seems broken... I believe some of their stuff can be seen here, but I have not really checked it out yet.

Jerry's Take on China, ~~chill dude i like him good videos~~, disclaimer: apparently transphobic according to a commenter below. Do approach videos with care and take what he says with a grain of salt, but good source to send to libs and introduce people who might not know much about china.

EDIT: somehow I forgot about ben norton, https://www.youtube.com/@GeopoliticalEconomyReport very good analysis on china, and the broader world highly reccomend

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While I don't necessarily agree with all the methods used in the vid I thought it was interesting to see how long term planning can have an enourmous effect when it comes to restoring greenery and wildlife in an otherwise deserted area

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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by soumerd_retardataire@lemmygrad.ml to c/china@lemmygrad.ml
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Summary

At least 126 people have been confirmed dead and 188 others injured as of Tuesday night after a magnitude-6.8 earthquake jolted Dingri County in the city of Xigaze in China's Xizang Autonomous Region at 9:05 a.m. on Tuesday.

The earthquake emergency response in Xizang has been raised to level I, the highest level, the region's emergency command center announced Tuesday.

To date, around 30,400 people have been relocated to temporary settlements, and all the injured people have been treated.


on a related note, duckduckgo clearly on that #censorship because :

screenshot of query on duckduckgo for "tibet earthquake CGTN" showing no results from CGTN

I even put CGTN in the query and nope. Only western media outlets. So laughable since I started using duckduckgo to avoid google's tracking, but even google will relent and provide me a link to CGTN

screenshot of query on Google for "tibet earthquake CGTN" showing a result from CGTN, but not at the top

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hes pretty good, thoughts?

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