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[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Interesting article. Just one of these vessels can cost $5M to remove and destroy. One of them sank in the Columbia and it would cost Oregon $25M to remove it and clean up environmental damage, which Oregon doesn't have the funds for. Yet the federal government is selling them for as low as $5,000, often without verifying means and insurance. Sounds like the federal government should be paying to do the removal directly, but of course then they couldn't shift the cost to states.

Notable here is that the only shipbreaker companies in the country authorized to do business with the federal government are located in Brownsville, Texas, so in the event they're large enough to justify the cost and seaworthy enough to make the journey, this effectively becomes yet another tax Pacific Northwest citizens pay that goes to red states.

Abandoned and derelict vessels are quietly piling up in Washington and Oregon waterways, posing a threat to fragile marine ecosystems. At least 37 of these vessels in the Pacific Northwest, including the Pacific Producer, were formerly property of the Navy, Coast Guard or another federal agency, then bought by someone who later abandoned it. Together, these former government vessels have cost Washington state and Oregon over $21 million to remove and destroy.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They're busy enacting their final solution to the Gaza problem, so just wait a few more months and world governments can sigh a breath of relief that they don't have to pretend to care anymore when the last Palestinian in Gaza has starved to death or been shot

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago

Not yet, but we all know it's coming

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

What worries me is using this as "evidence" to arrest Democrats in office.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thank you. I read the entire article and I don't really understand what the OP is trying to achieve with this post, which no one from that group will read, just as no one from that group has ever played a video game. They just seem like publicity-seeking busybodies with time to kill between complaints about their neighbors to their HOAs.

In particular I still don't understand why any of this is relevant to retro games. Modern games, sure. But it doesn't look like they're trying to get Crash Bandicoot banned from Steam.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I don't know what this group is and I have no idea what you're talking about. Most of all I don't understand why this is posted in a retro gaming community

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please go back to Reddit

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

Or <40% of us anyway. The rest don't care.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

I don't think you can separate people so cleanly.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

And I'm literally only talking about beef. Chicken may be atrocious from a cruelty perspective but it has a negligible environmental impact compared to beef. People who are emotionally invested in eating beef don't see that they have the exact same mentality as anti-maskers did during the pandemic: doing this helps the entire human race and prevents the suffering of millions of people, but I refuse to even consider any change in my behavior because it makes me temporarily uncomfortable.

How can someone demand action from others against something like rising fascism when they won't even change their lunch habits?

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What happens when demand decreases?

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 15 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Any reduction in beef consumption is a win for the environment. I hope beef becomes completely unaffordable.

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