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@skullgiver
> However, the Fediverse was never just about ActivityPub

Correct. As those of us who used GNU social 10 years ago will never tire of telling you, it was coined to describe the OStatus network. Once all the software using OS adopted ActivityPub, it came to describe the AP network, and anything hanging directly off it (eg Diaspora).

> ATProto is part of the Fediverse too

No it isn't, because...

> Fediverse software doesn’t speak it.

Same with XMPP, Matrix, etc

@erlend_sh

@Hexadecimalkink
> Did peerfed ever figure out the bandwidth issues? Is there a way this can scale?

If this is the PeerFed you meant, I'm guessing the answer to both these questions is 'no';

"This paper has been archived and no longer reflects the author's current thinking."

https://github.com/joshdoman/peerfed-paper

Although I do find this concept intriguing;

"The system consists of two convertible assets, interest-bearing cash and a paid-in-kind perpetual bond."

https://github.com/joshdoman/peerfed-paper/blob/main/peerfed.pdf

@yogthos

@yogthos
> An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok alternative, made by pixelfed has just successfully tested federation.

The loops.video announcement by @dansup is here;

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112569573022384441

@regalia
> I recommend actually looking at what it looks like on the site, it’s extremely different then how it looks on mastodon

Yes, I'm familiar. I've been following Lemmy development for several years, as part of research for fediverse.party. That's the background to my comments about the algorithm determining what appears on a Lemmy front page.

If you're proposing that there's a more complicated algorithm at work, what do you think it is?

@regalia
> Are you replying from Mastodon right now

Yes. Here's the post you just replied to, on the public-facing web page of the Mastodon server I use:

https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/110943135468924731

@regalia
> the algo for active/hot favor large communties, so smaller ones tend not to show up on the front page

I presume it's the same as what determines which posts appear on the front page of a Mastodon server; chronological order of posts. That would favour the larger communities, since people post there more often.

The other limiting factor, I presume, is a Lemmy server only knows about the communities its accounts are members of. Larger communities will have members on more servers.

@regalia
> our algo doesn’t do a good job of promoting smaller communities

Lemmy has an algo for that?

@SupraMario

@deadsuperhero
> development of a Go-based backend implementation, Dendrite

Also Rust-based homeserver implementations like Construct and Conduit. Both of which are usable, although missing a few nice-to-have added features. Eg Conduit is still working on;

"E2EE emoji comparison over federation (E2EE chat works)... Outgoing read receipts, typing, presence over federation"

@Terevos @Samsy

@deadsuperhero
> the reference implementation everyone uses by default is known to be bloated and slow, and poor at scaling

This doesn't seem to stop the fediverse growing (*cough* Mastodon *cough*).

@Terevos

@smileyhead
> But noone figured out how to prevent that in federated systems

You've basically got a choice been a centralised service where metadata can be limited but E2EE is mostly pointless (you have to trust the service operators' E2EE deployment), or a decentralised network where E2EE is reliable, but it's harder to limit metadata.

Which one is best depends on the situation/ threat model.

@AngryDemonoid

@deadsuperhero
> I’d really love to see a “modern” WhatsApp-like take on an XMPP messenger, but I haven’t found any

Have you looked at @snikket_im ?

@poVoq @lps

@Rambi
> but how come your username says @null?

No idea. Maybe a bug in your app? Maybe something to do with the fact I'm posting from a Mastodon server rather than Lemmy server?