midribbon_action

joined 2 years ago

Why the fuck did you expect me to defend capitalism? I answered the best I can.

[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'll take that's a slip of the tongue and I'll answer the question whether democracy leads to fascism, given that I've clearly stated I'm a socialist.

I think it's kinda bullshit to say that democracy hasn't done amazing things for the human condition. In any given region, democracy will come and go, nothing lasts forever. But where and when it exists, science, human rights, new ideas, and new culture, will always follow. The fact that things might get worse if we give people agency, as in, they might choose 'wrongly' and give up their democracy, that is not a reason to stop trying, or to try to take that agency away from everyone, yourself included.

[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I very much dislike people who don't realize that agency and democracy are the foundational human right, the one from which all other rights stem. Without the ability to play the "opinions game", as you call it, whether or not you go hungry is up to the leadership, not you. If you don't have a right to your own opinion, you do not have any control. It's pretty fucking simple. You can't make things better without agency. Nothing will ever get better by just passing the buck to totalitarian leaders and hoping they fix everything for you.

[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 days ago (6 children)

It all comes down to, do you believe that it's possible to mislead people? And relatedly, can you deceive a whole population? I have seen so much evidence that propaganda works, living in our shared capitalist hellscape. I cannot see a >90% agreement, on pretty much any question ever formulated, without a loooot of programming. Nothing is ever that popular naturally. These are not populations that are routinely exposed to differing opinions. Totalitarianism, in all it's forms, has these same indicators: screwy election numbers, cults of personality, government enforced and socially enforced orthopraxis and orthodoxy, etc. It is not a system where you have anything resembling agency.

So, just "you're wrong" again. Great discourse we're having.

You're right, it's not like Russia, except they are both totalitarian.

[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I didn't say they lied. I implied it's illegal for citizens to disagree. Putin also wins with similar percentages, and maybe there's some fuckery, but our best evidence is that Putin is similarly extremely popular in capitalist totalitarian Russia.

[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

That's a great statistic, >90%. Shows up all over the place in communist literature. I'm sure it's a sign of a well functioning democracy with diverse opinions represented.

[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Do you think that you specifically, as a worker, would have more power under totalitarian communism? Your voice and your opinions would be taken into account by the unaccountable leaders? Do you really think you would even be allowed to critique party policy?

[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago (10 children)

You are acknowledging total control in both systems, but are arguing against the word totalitarian to describe them. What is your actual argument?

 

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