amki

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[–] amki@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

This is a core problem of distributed systems though. Signal even cites this as their reason to not federate with anyone.

Once you get decentralization going you need everyone to stay kind of up to date or stuff will just not work.

[–] amki@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is not. Discord's protocol has been tailormade to suit Discord and the developers will not give a single thought about keeping it stable because only the Discord server&client are meant to use it.

[–] amki@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

An XMPP developer would likely have been delusional about the protocol he himself developed. But at the time I can assure you XMPP was completely irrelevant. AIM/ICQ/MSN/Yahoo! and maybe IRC were the tools of the day back then.

Because of actual competition (which XMPP had absolutely no part in) multi protocol messengers had their golden age then.

[–] amki@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No.

  • I want to send messages to people who are not currently online (having a server stay online for you is a desparate hack and not a solution)
  • I want to send media other than text
  • I want my messages to be e2ee
  • I want presence - e.g. know if someone is available, busy, away
  • I want voice/video calls

and many more...

None of these were solved by IRC but by the others you mentioned.

[–] amki@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

Also Matrix can bridge to XMPP, of course you wouldn't because nobody uses XMPP.

[–] amki@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No. There was nothing to extend and extinguish with XMPP. It was a dead on arrival protocol that nobody ever used seriously. I've been to the internet at that time and what people actually used was: AIM, ICQ, MSN and possibly even Yahoo!. (IRC for the nerds and Counter-Strike)

It was exactly the other way around. Nobody ever used XMPP, then Google opened federation on their first chat and suddenly someone was actually reachable via XMPP which was a cool thing for some nerds that were into XML then, but when Google noticed that it only imports problems with nothing to gain from the XMPP network they just shut it off.

At the time nobody cared because the people accidentally using XMPP didn't give a shit about it because they used Google not XMPP in the first place.

[–] amki@feddit.de 8 points 10 months ago

The analogy is that you buy a car (because if it breaks, the car and your entertainment stuff, you will buy a new one to replace it, you will also carry all maintenance) but suddenly you can't drive backwards anymore because the manufacturer decided retroactively that you should pay extra for that (possibly in a subscription).

I would say it is your good right then to make your car drive backwards regardless of what it may take.

[–] amki@feddit.de 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

TechnologyConnections is pretty dope

[–] amki@feddit.de 17 points 11 months ago

That is exactly what it doesn't. There is no "understanding" and that is exactly the problem. It generates some output that is similar to what it has already seen from the dataset it's been fed with that might correlate to your input.

[–] amki@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's basically the same thing that happened to Homer Simpson. The original did dumb things but never intended for things to fail or to be evil. Of course it is easier to write cheap gags if you throw all of that out of the window.

[–] amki@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

I see you are a man of tights

[–] amki@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

If you are able to open your password vault from the device you use as a second factor (which you probably do) the whole point is defeated anyways. Multiple apps on the same device won't save you.

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