Vegoon

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[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It was already, but not from another mamal. Birds infecting individuals is not the problem, we kill a few millions (58 since 2022 in the states alone) birds to prevent the spread, a few hundred humans get sick, all is well. From mamal to another mamal is the problem, once it goes from human to human its over.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 4 points 6 months ago

So it would reduce the risk of antibiotic resistant diseases, the risk of the next zoonosis that turns into pandemic, the certainty that climate change will destroy agriculture, the risk of heart diseases and cancer but it will not eliminate the chance of a stomach flue so it is not worth perusing?

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago

For smaller animals heat suffocation has worked well, takes a few days but no extra work.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And unless everyone is willing to go 100% vegan tomorrow

  • we do it until we get a new pandemic
  • we wait until climate change, 3°C from food production, destroys enough crops that agriculture collapses
  • we eat more of it to die sooner so we don't have to face the consequences of our actions.

And no, I don't belive 100% tommorow is the only way to avoid that, that was your wording. But it has to and will change.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Don't mess with animals. This is not a Texas problem, outbreaks have been all over the world and the animal agriculture is the perfect breeding ground. The only question is where will it develop the human to human infection feature. When it happens you can only blame others if your state or country has no animal agriculture as it could happen anywhere.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Now we know better:

https://feddit.de/post/10666309

But hey, still not human to human. Lets give it another week?

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 21 points 6 months ago

I am not deep enough in it, but from the arch-announce mailinglist:

From the upstream report [1]:

openssh does not directly use liblzma. However debian and several other distributions patch openssh to support systemd notification, and libsystemd does depend on lzma.

Arch does not directly link openssh to liblzma, and thus this attack vector is not possible. You can confirm this by issuing the following command:

$(command -v sshd)

However, out of an abundance of caution, we advise users to remove the malicious code from their system by upgrading either way. This is because other yet-to-be discovered methods to exploit the backdoor could exist.

https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/03/29/4

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 36 points 6 months ago (4 children)

All of the animal industries the report examines are far less regulated than they should be and far less than the public believes they currently are. Today, wide regulatory gaps exist through which pathogens can spillover and spread, leaving the public constantly vulnerable to zoonotic disease.

https://animal.law.harvard.edu/news-article/animal-markets-and-zoonotic-disease/

Is just one study. Many say the animal industry is the breeding ground for the next pandemic. Not only in the US but everywhere. The question is not "if" but "when"

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 3 points 6 months ago

You think that after 99% of the US population decided to stop supporting climate change by not buying meat from billionaires, those 99% would still allow them to continue? Not for their own taste and convenience but for some billionaires profits?

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

They would sell $165 billion worth of meat, 22% of all meat products consumed in the US to a handful of billionaires and the US government? Ignoring the international business.

Billionaires would never touch that meat. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/jan/10/zuckerberg-cattle-hawaii-beef-environment

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Take a look at the Cargill family, 14 billionaires. From the wiki about the current CEO:

In 2019, former U.S. Congressman Henry A. Waxman, in a report by Mighty Earth, called Cargill "the worst company in the world" and noted that it drives "the most important problems facing our world" (deforestation, pollution, climate change, exploitation) "at a scale that dwarfs their closest competitors."

Do you think that is because they use every cent to burn coal and oil in their backyard, or

do you think it is because they produce and sell products to consumers which can not be produced without harm to the environment?

99% of the planet could produce zero pollution for the rest of our lives and it wouldn’t even make a dent in the amount of pollution created by the billionaire class.

How do you think they would create that damage to the environment if nobody would buy their products?

 
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