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Yeah, I guess I forgot that the central tenet of Star Trek is that people are either Good or Bad, and there's no room for change or improvement.

The idea that a person can do horrible things but still try to reject their old ways and do things differently is against everything that Star Trek stands for?

I really don't think that's how it works.

wat

They announced the pivot to a streaming movie in April 2023.

I dunno, from what we've seen on DS9 and Enterprise, Section 31 is willing to recruit operatives to fulfil their goals - we saw that in Malcom Reed and Bashir as Starfleet personnel, but also Koval, who was a Romulan agent.

A S31 agent like Alok Sahar, who operates outside the Federation and has the authority to recruit people to achieve the ogranization's goals, makes a kind of sense to me. A Deltan and a Chameloid both make sense from a spycraft perspective.

If anything, this iteration of S31 could show a progression from the out-in-the-open, "special forces" iteration of the group that we saw in Discovery, to the complete disavowal of DS9.

*movie

Fuzz

There's been speculation over whether he's a Vulcan or a Romulan, but I think this description points to him being a Vulcan who rejects Surak's teachings.

Melle

This might be the first confirmation that she is, in fact, Deltan. Seems like an asset for spy shit.

Georgiou

"Nightclub owner" is pretty far from where I expected her to land after "Terra Firma." It's kind of funny that they describe her as "unable to return to the Terran Empire," when that is something she decidely did not want to do by the end.

Why do they have basic attributes of fictional characters? Tough to say...

Precision is important.

What did everyone think? I slipped into a fugue state when I saw actual Gallamites.

Aside from the obvious space angle, it seems more like a "Suicide Squad" vibe to me, which makes a little more sense, I think.

Their marketing tone is not what I expected at all, but I'm still interested in what the heck this thing will be.

I just want a sense of what the actual story is.