MouthyHooker
Hi please put all of these calorie deficit suggestions and frankly all calorie talk behind a spoiler tag as it can be triggering to those with ED.
Edited to add: Please give an actual, helpful, informative spoiler tag that includes a content warning about ED triggers.
I understand your intention isn’t to harm anyone, but just like with unintentional racism or unintentional transphobia, it’s harmful regardless. Fat people are not ignorant about the concept of “CICO.” Fat people have been on diets. Fat people have heard about the dangers of obesity from their doctors and probably from everyone else in their lives too.
This exactly. Once they’ve lost weight, formerly fat people are expected to engage in disordered eating forever to remain thin. Expected, encouraged, and celebrated if and only if they keep the weight off. “Health” isn’t really a factor in the conversation because people have “thin=healthy” so deeply-ingrained.
The 12 step program also does not work. Literally every intervention for substance use has an abysmal long-term success rate.
It’s about diet and exercise not keeping the weight off long-term. People lose weight from diet and exercise all the time, the vast majority just don’t keep it off.
This site has triggered the fuck out of my eating disorder and people do not put trigger warnings on their shitty diet advice. 🙃
What you said was not fine, for the record. Frankly, formerly fat people are some of the worst about this.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5764193/
Again, I highly recommend the resources listed above as a starting point. u/khizuo listed some great info as well.
Yeah my friend who is on estrogen has definitely gained weight since she started HRT and she’s actually way more active now bc she got a job where she’s on her feet running around all day.
Thank you and I do appreciate you posting links about anti-fat bias in medicine.
Anti-fat bias in medicine is so harmful. It literally kills people. I’m sorry you have to go through this.
Honestly, I’m a small fat (I like to say TV fat) and they still treat me like shit, assume I am sedentary, assure me that all my health issues will be solved by losing weight, and casually tell me to
CW: ED trigger
eat literal starvation level calories while exercising
I’m sorry people here are being shitty in the replies, too. You deserve to be treated with respect by your healthcare providers and you deserve support from your community.
Ok it says 80% of the weight lost was gained back in 5 years and it’s a meta-analysis of 29 different studies so that’s a huge dataset. There’s also some anti-fat bias in the study, but regardless, the implication here is that all the people in all the studies fucked up because they couldn’t stick to a diet and exercise plan longterm. As a leftist, that explanation comes up short for me.
But frankly, this is what I didn’t want to do in this thread.
“We’re not doing calorie denialism here.”
This is the problem. You think my body burns calories at the same rate as your body? You think the human body is a simple machine where you input 500 calories into my body and your body and our bodies process, store and burn them the same way? It’s far more complex than “CICO” and I’m fucking sick to death of thin people preaching about the SiMpLe sCiEnCE. I’m not doing it. Don’t bother responding, I do not have it in me to do the back-and-forth.
The OP specifically asked thin people to STFU, listen, do some self-crit, and do some fucking reading. It’s not an invitation to debate weight loss shit with me. Read the responses from fat people in this thread and fucking do better. It’s exhausting.