Kepabar

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[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

It's nothing so complicated as all that.

It's as simple as any possible solution to the issue is to Israels disadvantage, so they work to maintain the status quo.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

Nah, it's neither.

It's that while I do enjoy whatever it is, if it were to disappear because I'm ad blocking and won't sub then .. ohh well?

There are a select few groups I actually care about and I donate to them (like PBS).

Anything else will either find a way or die but I don't care which.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The leadership of Gaza is Hamas. Unequivocally.

Hamas was elected to power then pulled the ladder up behind them suspending all future elections.

All officials in the Gaza government are Hamas.

Elections were suspended in the West Bank because there is a real chance Hamas would win an election there today.

This isn't a case of a tyrannical overlord ruling over the Palestinian people without their consent.

Most supported and still support the organization.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah. This is the one that came to my mind.

Dude straight up ended his career. His band members left, label dropped him and his colabs said they wouldn't work with him anymore.

Turns out he was a lieutenant in the oath keepers and the FBI grabbed him. Last I heard he made a plea deal and got put into the witness protection program.

He is the band and it can't exist without him. Even if he could continue, he'd have to rebuild it from the ground up.

It's a shame, I really Loved Demons and Wizards, the iced earth / blind guardian colab group.

... Based on some song lyrics I feel I should have seen this coming when looking back though.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago

Which is the core reason why there is no peaceful solution.

Israel was founded as a Jewish ethnostate. Imagine if the same was done but it was a white ethnostate. Who would be the first to move there?

White nationalists who want a pure white ethnostate, that's who. That's what happened in Israel. Those who wanted àto separate themselves from 'the other'. It's why there is such a strong radical ethnic based faction of Jews in Israel whose views aren't reflected in most of the Jewish populations elsewhere.

Conversely, those who haven't found a way to flee Gaza over the decades are more likely to believe that they, as an ethnicity, are the rightful owners of the various holy sites and land in the area and the only solution is the removal or subjegation of the Jewish people from the region.

With both sides having significant and loud sections of their populations calling for the destruction of the other, how can peace ever happen?

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The vast majority of Israeli's were born there at this point.

It's not a stolen home to them. It's the only home they've ever known.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What question do you want answered? Most of what you stated seemed to be rhetorical.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why is this "Where do they go? 😞 " question relevant only now and only one way?

Because someone specifically told me that every Israeli should just leave Israel?

Are you not following the converstation here?

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

That's what makes the whole thing complicated, isn't it?

Israel shouldn't have existed to begin with and when it did, it shouldn't have acted the way it has since its inception.

Yes, Israel is to blame for Hamas having power in Gaza today as well.

I'm not arguing that Israel isn't a bad guy here.

What I'm arguing is I don't see an alternative that doesn't just kick the can down the road.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

considering a lot of them have second citizenships elsewhere...how about those places?

That only accounts for maybe 20-30% of the population these days. Most Israelis alive today were born in the country, not immigrants.

So again, where do they go?

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website -3 points 1 year ago (10 children)
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