HarrietTubman

The further left I go the further right I end up, because of the horseshoe.

I don't know how to explain to you that linking an accusation of fatphobia when I have been in this thread constantly defending fatness as 'not a moral failing,' lost family to fatphobia, and experienced assumed fatphobia from people who don't even know me is extremely patronizing.

I don't think they do [suggest being overweight causes no issues], but the well has been poisoned elsewhere by preemptively assuming that if we even present this as a societal issue and a negative outcome that we're 'concern trolling' and secretly only care because we hate fat people.

I grew up in Mississippi. Huge food desert, poor population, awful education, terribly obese, and the entire country is constantly being shitty to the people there like they chose it. And the healthcare sucks because doctors don't try to treat fat people. So sure, it's not my body, it's not a literal warzone, and there are other behaviors that need to die, but I have a lot of proximity to this and some of the people I've grown up with have essentially no mobility and are constantly having health scares. It's not just a 'so what' to me, these were my neighbors and the common perception is that they experienced some sort of moral failing and not that they are being exploited into an early grave. It's not my body, but I care about more than just my own body.

Do you have any alternative sites to recommend discussions of how capitalism is actively harming poor people and manipulating them into blaming each other then, if Hexbear is not the place to do so?

It's been talked about but the comments are getting deleted. You're right.

And as a result, this dis-proportionally affects exactly who you'd expect anything bad to affect. The obesity rate among African-American women is 57 percent and 46 percent among Hispanic women. You go to the doctor as a fat woman with a health issue, and they tell you to lose weight and don't actually treat you. They're doing genocide and getting away with it because they're not actively pouring high fructose corn syrup down anyone's throat and the rare fine barely puts a dent in the bottom line.

I made a comment that mass obesity is a product of capitalism that shouldn't be seen as a personal moral failing and it got deleted for unspecified reasons.

There is at least one about CICO that apparently had some misinformation but I can't really get anything out of that part of the thread because now a huge chunk of context is gone.

It's not easy when mods are deleting half the comments.

I'm a little confused how you came to this conclusion when I specifically responded in agreement to a comment about how this is societal, and that it is something inflicted upon people and not an individual choice, and that easily-accessed processed foods are responsible for this. It feels like you read it and interpreted it as the exact opposite, and apparently a mod somewhere did the same.

Edit: I brought up public transportation because that is the primary context where one person is affected by another person's fatness in their day-to-day lives. There's obviously the cost factor that constantly gets brought up but that's not very tangible and naturally these industries will increase prices regardless of any associated costs. I explained that the proximity makes the individual the obvious target, but again, it feels like the entire comment just got missed.