GlacialTurtle

joined 8 months ago
[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

How elections work is that political parties work to earn votes of the base they want to represent.

It's wild how moronic dipshits like you who talk down to others about "hOw ElEctIOnS WoRk" never hold political parties responsible for the choices they made about how they campaign and why, and the policies they follow, and instead blame random nobodies asked to tick a box every 4 fucking years.

Hey, dipshit, who forced Democrats to literally commit themselves to genocide? This isn't a minor quibble over tax policy, like 5 vs 10% tax rate, this lis* literal genocide*, mass murder of an ethnic people directly supported by Biden and the Democrats. They were told for a year by their own base this was not going to win them votes, and they ignored it. Your response is to literally claim we just needed to factor in literal fucking genocide as a given. You are a monstrously disgusting piece of shit. The perfect embodiment of the racist liberal. Brown people do not matter to you for anything except as a performative cudgel to vote shame people over the Democratic parties policy and campaign choices, something no one else made them do. Rather than hold them responsible, your dumb fucking ass is still online doing the same tired bullshit of insisting it's everyone elses fault except the people who have actual fucking power and actual decision making capacity to change shit.

Here's how democracy works dumbass. A political party puts forward a set of policies about issues x, y and z. Voters express their preferences and concerns about them and other issues. A party then has 2 options: change policy and campaigning in response to those concerns, or articulate why their policies would be better.

So you tell me, Mr Elections Understander, what happens when voters express for over a year they don't like a central policy that has dominated the news, but the party tells them to fuck off repeatedly? Is that a good strategy for an election to win votes, to tell people concerned about literal genocide to shut up because "I'm speaking"? Is it a good strategy to tell voters they need to just accept genocide will happen, that they need to factor it in like it's 2% fucking inflation?

But sure, you hitch your wagon to the Democrats didn't have to do anything differently. It's everyone elses fault they committed themselves to genocide. It's everyone elses fault that something that literally every competent campaign manager would have told you, that ignoring and overriding your own base on issues they care about, whilst spending the entire campaign trying to appeal to people who hate you with "but we can be racist and do genocide too!!!!!" could be a losing strategy.

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Fuck off you disgusting piece of shit. Imagine being such a dumb fucking cunt you attempt to scold random voters for the Democrats decision to support genocide and claim it's their fault somehow.

Hey, dipshit, who kept signing off on arms shipments the past fucking year? Hey dipshit, who declared a redline in Rafah only for nothing to happen? Who gave a deadline of 30 days for aid to increase, nothing improved, then they just meekly announced they weren't doing shit as punishment?

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The people who told Democrats for months to change position were Democrats and people who worked in the democratic party, some of whom did so for decades.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/24/nx-s1-5086924/the-dnc-didnt-let-a-palestinian-american-speak-the-uncommitted-movement-took-note

June Rose, the sole “uncommitted” delegate from Rhode Island, also said it was incorrect to assume the delegation members come from the fringes of the Democratic Party.

“We are Democratic professionals. I’m the chief of staff of the Providence City Council. I’ve made my career helping to elect Democrats and defeat Republicans who pose incredible risk to the future of our country,” the 29-year-old told Al Jazeera.

“But my relationship with the party will never supersede my relationship with my values, and in this case, my values and my party are in direct conflict.”

Rose named Eileen Abu Odeh, a toddler killed with her family in an Israeli air raid in Gaza, during the roll call. They explained the delegation’s presence at the Democratic National Convention can serve as a gut check for the party, as it prepares to chart a course forward on foreign policy.

“Our party cannot just make this week a celebration, and I think that that’s the tone that many in our party want to take,” Rose said. “But that celebration would be on the graves of innocent children who’ve been slaughtered.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/8/17/uncommitted-delegates-bring-gaza-war-message-to-democratic-convention

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And tankies get the name specifically from either defending or denying that specifically the Soviet Union used violence to suppress attempts to leave their union.

I fucking knew it, Lincoln was a soviet plant all along, fucking tankies.

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's liberals suddenly flipping to think the is the US is the bad guy now like they did in 2016 and showing how ignorant they are of US actions abroad for literally decades.

Or maybe now they're worried because they think the things they're fine with happening to brown people might creep over into affecting white Europeans negatively, 'cos it sure hasn't occured to them the genocide we were already endorsing for the past year.

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hey guys, look at this dipshit, drawing irrelevant distinctions and pointlessly trying to police other peoples language because they think the only reason others would use those terms is because they're "edgy and transgressive".

Tell me, where on the fascism to nazism meter is mass deportations, muslim bans, endorsing far right militias, supporting running over protestors, palling around with white supremacists, and seeking to eradicate trans people from public life? Are we at .49? or is it more like .76? My readings seems to be off. Just so I know I'm not using the incorrect terms so some moron from .world doesn't get mad and try to incessantly police terms on the internet.

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 31 points 6 months ago (6 children)

It’s not even clever at this point, maybe it was edgy and transgressive like 7 years ago.

Are you really this childish that you genuinely think the only reason people might suggest Trump is a fascist is because it was "edgy and transgressive"? Not the fascist rhetoric, increasingly fascist policy and the various fascists he's willing to work with and support?

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Not sure what happened there.

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Log the fuck off.

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Maybe Democrats shouldn't have sent Bill Clinton to talk about how Hamas forced Israel to kill civilians and that's why you need to not care about Dems facilitating genocide, or maybe Richie Torres could have not spent the last weeks of the campaign feuding with Hasan Piker on Twitter over Israel as he was also in Michigan to speak to Arab and Muslim voters.

I guess we already saw if they made the right choice.

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