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TikTok is a social media app that tracks an incredible amount of data. A change of location will not change this.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone saying “it doesn’t matter that TikTok is based in China” is actually just saying that they don’t have any real understanding of how the CCP runs shit in China. It matters very fucking much that the government under which TikTok was created was the CCP.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The vast majority of people using TiKTok have no idea what the CCP even is.

And hey, maybe they could be educated about that!

But that education isn't going to happen on TikTok under the control of the CCP.

I’d wager that most people are familiar with Communist China.

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile we accept everything else manufactured in China.

Except, of course, affordable vehicles.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

I would avoid Chinese phones, network gear, and other computer hardware as well.

[–] turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Every bad thing about Tiktok is also true about Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

You're right. I hope you're not saying that in order to defend TikTok but rather to support banning Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram too.

[–] 0x815@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I have to disagree, not every bad thing ...

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You probably couldn’t reasonably sue a chinese company for mis-use

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True but it's an order of magnitude worse on Tiktok. All of it.

[–] turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why worse? It's just exchanging American spies with Chinese spies.. Both are bad, but Americans are worse

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I wasn't talking about the spying. Even if no one was spying, Tiktok is still societal cancer.

[–] 0x815@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lawmaker Who Led TikTok Ban Bill Joins Private Surveillance Firm

Mike Gallagher pushed the bill to ban TikTok because China can "surveil its users." Now, he's resigning and joining an American surveillance firm Palantir.

[–] TwinTusks@bitforged.space 1 points 1 year ago

Palantir

great name!

[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, the only solution is to not use it? Got it.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

No. The only solution is to ban it to stop the idiots from using it, too. The problem cannot be solved individually, only collectively.

[–] rivr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why i have a feeling that they pick this "hot topic" only to promote themselves in a really lazy way

[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will change who gets the data. Who would you rather have your data: US gov, or CCP?

For me its an easy choice; I dont tiktok.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Neither

Tik Tok and Meta and others must be sold to operate in the country I'm in.

[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It definitely matters. It is being use as a propaganda tool.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 0x815@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@huginn

One example:

TikTok Facilitates CCP’s Arrest of Uyghurs in China

The Uyghur Times has documented at least 20 individuals who vanished after sharing videos criticizing the Chinese government on TikTok between 2021 and 2023.The International Version of TikTok has a long history of suspending or suppressing users who share content criticizing the Chinese government. That is why you don’t see Uyghur activists on this platform; that is why so many people don’t know what is happening to the Uyghur people.You may not care, but we Uyghurs are clear about one fact: TikTok is the genocidal arm of the Chinese government.

You'll find a large number of examples on how the CCP censors their web.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ty for context

I thought tiktok wasn't available in China?

Do they mean douyin or was it them using tiktok?

[–] 0x815@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Citing tbe article that "the International Version of TikTok has a long history of suspending or suppressing users who share content criticizing the Chinese government," it might refer to TikTok users outside China.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah reading the article it seems like Douyin is where the people were disappearing and TikTok is where the videos were suppressed.

They're both owned by Bytedance out of Beijing so it's not really much of a distinction.

[–] 0x815@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] huginn@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

Authoritarian regimes often kidnap their own citizens in other countries, yes.

That's not really what we're talking about here though

Tautalogically that is totally tautological.