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I've been on Wayland for the past two years exclusively (Nvidia).

I thought it was okay for the most part but then I had to switch to an X session recently. The experience felt about the same. Out of curiosity, I played a couple of games and realized they worked much better. Steam doesn't go nuts either.

Made me think maybe people aren't actually adopting it that aggressively despite the constant coverage in the community. And that maybe I should just go back.

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[–] letThemPlay@lemmy.one 1 points 8 months ago

I've been using Sway for over 2 years, and for my workflow it works well, with one exception I just can't get vscode to scale properly for my display.

[–] signofzeta@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago

I’ve been using it ever since Ubuntu switched over. No major issues, though I have to launch Calibre (the ebook manager) via the command line with a special environment variable because the developer is anti-Wayland. I’m looking for alternatives.

[–] ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago

Ye, since Plasma 5.24 I think. Used to occasionally switch to X11 for competitive gaming, but as of Plasma 6 their Wayland compositor supports fullscreen tearing, so now I have no need to use X11 anymore

[–] prey169@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Gsync doesn't work yet so... Not yet for me.

Also, they need to fix the load apps in last location like X has

[–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

I have been for the past month now. All of my games are now working.

Previously no and the reason was bc of Nvidia issues, but they all seem resolved now for the most part

[–] Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

Used it for the last few years. X just doesn't work right with multiple monitors of different resolution.

[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

KDE Wayland is an epilepsy inducing flickerfest with my Nvidia GPU, so it's off limits until they fix it. Games usually run fine on X11, but one exception I noticed is Noita, it runs like crap on X11, and runs great on Wayland for some reason.

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[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I've been on Sway for a while now. Also have a computer on Plasma (Wayland).

(Intel iGPU, AMD APU, and AMD graphics card)

[–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was using it on a new work machine, it was fine.

The main issue is all the good tiling wms are X11 based and I don't really want to use a wayland version of i3. I want some dynamic tiling goodies.

[–] Communist@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

You're looking for Hyprland!

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

Plasma 6 fixed a lot of issues I had with Wayland, mostly multi monitor, but I've been using it since steam on X11 would cause your entire desktop environment to freeze up consistently every time. I read it was because steam was constantly pinging your display ports to see if there was another monitor connected, but I don't know how true that is. Moving to Wayland fixed that probably because of xwayland

[–] dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I've been using it since Plasma 6 came out so about 3-4 weeks.

Overall, it's been a very negative experience for me. The main problems have been:

  • Random scaling issues in apps: some apps show a slightly smaller cursor, other show a poorly upscaled one, others have random rendering issues like lines remaining on the screen after an option is no longer highlighted (gimp, libreoffice, many others), some apps have random flickering of parts of the UI, some apps no longer scale at all or are scaled twice. Plasmashell itself has blurry icons on the desktop but all other KDE apps don't. I know fractional scaling has always been problematic, but it has gotten worse to the point of being almost unusable
  • Random crashes of GTK apps when using the wayland backend. Some GTK apps don't even start and segfault immediately with a wayland error in the terminal
  • Some apps like okular and libreoffice lag like crazy or outright freeze when scrolling
  • Some games not capturing the cursor properly (Proton)
  • Inconsistent font rendering, some fonts look fine in some apps and atrocious in others
  • Issues when resizing or moving windows, some times they "jerk" off the screen or resize to a very tiny window and I'm forced to use key combinations to resize them again
  • Random issues with window decoration not appearing in some apps but randomy appearing for things like context menus

This is on a full AMD system with Arch Linux, the latest kernel and mesa-git. I hope for KDE's sake that there's something broken in my installation because I can't believe the KDE team released Plasma 6 in this sorry state.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I haven't run KDE 6 but on Kubuntu with the last LTS 5.27 release, I don't have any of those issues also on a fully AMD system

You know, some personal anecdote here but Arch is a really shitty distro when it comes to subtle, hard to detect, system config breakage so maybe there's something wrong somewhere in the system?

Give it a try with another distro like Debian or something and see if the issues happen there

And if they do, for the love of fuck FILE BUG REPORTS! The only reason we're here today is because people who got annoyed at shit filed bug reports for it

[–] dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza 1 points 8 months ago

I know, I know :)

I reported the bugs I've encountered but I don't have time to install another distro right now. I've seen some of those bugs (scaling) on the KDE neon live iso though.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

A couple years(ish) on intel-only laptops. I run it with KDE Plasma. I only think about it when I see a thread like this one.

For me it Just Works™. I recognize that being intel-only may be a contributing factor, and my certification of Just Works™ is not to imply dismissal of any problems others may be having. 🙂

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

I've been using Wayland since the end of last year, I haven't done any real benchmarking but games run about the same for me on either.

[–] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

No. I plan to switch when I replace my 3070 with an AMD chip.

[–] ProtonBadger@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

A year-ish, Plasma, Intel iGPU for Desktop and Nvidia offload for Steam. It's great.

[–] janAkali@lemmy.one 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I could switch tomorrow if I could do my current setup:

  • Tiling Window manager (sway?)
  • simple status bar to output text from a script with clickable applet icons (waybar?)
  • the way to show/hide windows on a button press - I have a script that I use to quickly toggle 3 dropdown terminal windows

Last time I tried Wayland in December, I had issues with waybar not supporting clicking tray applet icons. Also I've ported my dropdown terminals script to support sway - and it worked half the time, like, literally every second key press was ignored.

On one hand I have X session that currently has no downsides for me, on other - wayland that has no upsides. Tell me, why would I switch?

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Whenever Nobara moves to KDE 6, I'll probs switch over to Wayland. Likely sometime this year.

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