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I've been on Wayland for the past two years exclusively (Nvidia).

I thought it was okay for the most part but then I had to switch to an X session recently. The experience felt about the same. Out of curiosity, I played a couple of games and realized they worked much better. Steam doesn't go nuts either.

Made me think maybe people aren't actually adopting it that aggressively despite the constant coverage in the community. And that maybe I should just go back.

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[–] fhek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Whenever X doesn’t work for me. I’ve never had an issue.

[–] grep@fosstodon.org 3 points 1 year ago

@headroom Wayland has been my daily for almost a year-and-a-half, most of that on Intel/Nvidia hybrid gpus. I used to use XFCE but switched to Plasma in anticipation of the Landing of Way.

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My Thinkpad touchscreens were useless until I switched to wayland.

The only drawback is I have to manually edit the qgis desktop file to start qgis with x11 instead of Wayland. I had to do the same to a couple other random experimental apps, too.

[–] LaSirena@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

I daily drive a ThinkPad for work running Wayland. I have one occasional problem with a commercial application that I suspect is related but I haven't bothered to prove it since it's so infrequent. Otherwise, rock solid experience for the last year since I was given the machine.

[–] fujiwara@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I tried Wayland out again last week and all it did was make my monitors flash white and black over and over again. Couldn't get it to stop unless I restarted. No idea how to fix that since I can't even do anything past the sign in screen lol. Maybe one day it'll work.

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[–] Raimu@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I started daily driving sway during the transition from wlc to wlroots back in early 2019 (sway 1.0), so it's been 5 years.

Note that's since I got an HiDPI laptop in 2015, I have been looking at Wayland progress from the GNOME side for a long time, but not completly daily driving it because of some annoyances.

[–] fleet@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

In 2017 I bought a ThinkPad with a hidpi screen, which I knew would give me trouble with Linux. Fortunately the Fedora 26 beta had just been released and was using Wayland by default (I wasn't very Linux savvy to do it myself yet). I've been using Wayland on Fedora ever since without issue.

[–] starman@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been on Wayland (Hyprland) for 8 months, unfortunately on Nvidia.

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

Switched over to wayland about 4-5 years ago, have run into a couple of problems dealing with theming, fractional scaling and of course nvidia, but on the whole my experience has been without major issues.

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Since Fedora 35 or more specifically rawhide in the lead up to Fedora 36, so late 2021. Plasma Wayland session, it had some rough edges, but I found it tolerable. I understand some people wont put up with it, or find workarounds and that is fair. Its been good to experience it as it has matured.

[–] KrapKake@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I only use wayland on my t480 and it makes a noticeable difference on that machine, but not on my desktop with Nvidia. I have been testing it for a couple of days on my Nvidia box though. So far I've found it mostly works better than I expected but some games played on Nvidia+Wayland makes it look like my monitor is about to die with the weird flickers it does at times and under certain conditions (like loading screens it's unbearable), otherwise performance is good and seems to lock in at 144hz. Also does anyone know why there are no settings in the nvidia-settings app under Wayland?

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

i'll probably jump the next time i change window managers or distros... i havent a reason to currently

I've been daily-driving hyprland for the last couple of months and it's been very smooth sailing for me. I configured it to very closely resemble my bspwm - polybar config though it was easier to set up. I have to say that in 99% of cases the experience is equivalent. You also get to run Wayland exclusive applications (though those aren't really common).

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, I have Wayland on both my gaming machine and my laptop. I switched for security reasons (i.e. client input isolation). I think Wayland compositors tend to be buggier than X WMs/DEs, just because they are newer/more immature, and there is less native support for it. But some native Wayland-only programs are really good, like Foot is pretty much the perfect terminal emulator for me, being lightweight and fast but with sixel support too. It pretty much has every feature I want to use (except ligature support but that's not super important to me) without any of the features I wouldn't use (looking at you Kitty).

However the downside is the occasional program that just doesn't work on Wayland, like JetBrains IDEs, which are one of the few pieces of proprietary software I voluntarily use. JetBrains IDEs use a bunch of X hacks so they have some buggy behaviour on Xwayland. I really hope JetBrains hurries up with their native Wayland support, especially since so many DEs and distros are moving to Wayland by default now.

I also wish there were more tiling compositors out there. It seems to just be Sway, Hyprland, River, DWL, and QTile (which has a Wayland option, which is very cool). Of which I have daily driven Hyprland and River and been happy with them. I know there's others but they seem pretty obscure or abandoned and not something I'd be looking to daily drive. On X there are so many WMs for every possible use case. And of course the popular X WMs are pretty mature software; I don't remember many breaking bugs when I was on i3, but Hyprland and River are in very active development which means a new update can mean bugs of varying levels of annoying/need a workaround/need to downgrade.

KDE Plasma on Arch on integrated Intel graphics here. I've been on it for a few years and I love it.

[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 2 points 1 year ago

About five years with Wayland now. Started with sway and now running KDE Plasma 6. It is snappy, simple and definitely so good I will not miss X11.

(I also think systemd is cool, you can crucify me now)

[–] etbe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

For my home workstation running Debian/Bookworm I started running Wayland-Plasma when Xorg mysteriously refused to work after replacing my video card. Wayland just worked and really had no issues for me so while I'm sure I could have solved the X11 problem I didn't have a real need to.

I also changed my laptop to Wayland-Plasma more recently. A problem I had was in setting up the right modes for external monitors on laptops but that seems to work OK now. Generally things just work.

[–] D_Air1@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Been using it since plasma 6

[–] backhdlp@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 1 year ago

I haven't used Wayland for about a week overall in my year of using Linux.

[–] UmbraTemporis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When my DE, Budgie, supports it. I'm not too bothered about using it, with a beast monitor and a high-end PC I hardly notice the X.Org quirks.

I'll take it as when Budgie is ready to ship a full Wayland-only experience, I'll be ready to use one.

[–] joe_archer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When network keyboard and mouse sharing works. It is the only thing stopping me going full Wayland.

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[–] banghida@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes. Since 2013 or so, if I remember correctly. Gnome 3.10.

[–] jfx@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am dependent on a couple of programs I run via wine - and wine still isn't directly compatible with wayland and buggy with xwayland...

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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 1 year ago

Tried wayland but it doesnt work on debian stable + kde + nvidia hickup-free yet. I will switch when a) the fixes come to stable and b) a need to switch arises.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I tried it a few times on different hardware. There were weird lags, freezes, crashes, latency, artifacts, flickering (once I had to reinstall the system to fix it), no cursor in games etc etc so no thanks. It doesn't work for me. Maybe it's possible to fix if I spend a week in the terminal but ehh idk. It's just not ready for me I guess. And I didn't even have enough time to find compatibility issues. I'm a little bit afraid that by the time Wayland is ready, a new system will already be required lol. It's getting better though so probably it will be ready for business/production in a few years idk. The only thing I can definitely tell is that it must not be the default on regular desktop distros now. Wayland may be good but it's not mature. Switching to it on the login screen is a 3 seconds task and it fixes so many issues, especially on older hardware

[–] ScottE@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

When I'm forced to, and not before then. X works perfectly well so there's no reason for me to switch to something else with less features.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I use multiple machines. On one of the core machines, I switched to Plasma 6 on Wayland when that was released. I used XFCE on X11 previously. It seems ok so far.

Not yet. I'll give it another go when I get Plasma 6 (I'm on Debian, so either I'll switch to Sid or just wait a while).

Last time I tried it, it mostly worked, but mpv had some issues and missing features on Wayland. I haven't kept up with the mpv developments since then so I'm not sure if that's been addressed upstream yet.

[–] kib48@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I haven't touched the X11 session once since I got my laptop, all Wayland

[–] snaggen@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know I have used it since Fedora made it default in 2016. I think I actually used it a while before that, but I don't have any thing to help me pin down the exact time.

Since I only use Intel built-in GPU, everything have worked pretty well. The few times I needed to share my screen, I had to logout and login to an X session. However, that was solved a couple of years ago. Now, I just wait for Java to get proper Wayland support, so I fully can ditch X for my daily use and get to take advantage of multi DPI capabilities of Wayland.

[–] burrito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] snaggen@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

That's why it felt very early to have used it before it was default, I mean before 2016 felt too early for me... But it was way before Covid, so I'd say around 2017.

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