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[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn't taste the same without the suffering!

[–] sxan@midwest.social 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is a joke I've heard before - at least, I hope it's a joke, but what if it's true? What if adrenaline tastes fantastic? Does it? We should know.

I'm increasingly starting to believe that the real difference between sentient, self-aware creatures like humans and other animals is that we have the ability to decide something is bad and then not do it, even though our biological drive is to do so.

[–] Adramis@midwest.social 12 points 8 months ago

Stress in animals leads to worse tasting meat, to the point that it heavily affects the meat industry. There's probably better sources but this was what I found quickly: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/why-scared-animals-taste-worse

[–] kadotux@lemmings.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think I've read somewhere that e.g. hunters try to avoid stressing the animal before killing it, because ~~adrenaline~~ cortisol tastes bad. I could be wrong, though.

[–] poplargrove@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I'm clueless about the topic but isn't draining blood part of processing animals meat? Because then it would have to be an affect of adrenaline on the meat and not the taste of adrenaline itself.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Finally - now I can enjoy truly vegetarian foods, knowing that my food cried before it died! :-P (\s)

Everyone knows it's the salt in tears that tenderizes meat.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Have you seen what they do to coffee beans? Mexicans are horrible to so many types of seeds....corn, beans, cocoa... My God! Rice, even tea! Did you know that most of the world will actually boil leaves straight from the tree? Today they first let the leaf die a horrible death of thirst, and then boil it. Barbaric!

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Username checks out

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 months ago

Stressed grape vines make the best wines. 🥂

[–] ours@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Florida is taking notes.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago
[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

If you are soil biology this is very true in your typical soy field.

[–] leanleft@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

notta meme. but wtvr

[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's actually truth in it.

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is, just a little. 🙂

For people that don't have context...I know farmers that irrigate (water) their beans. But a lot of smart farmers don't irrigate right away! They want the soybean plant to establish, to set up down roots in the soil (in search of water). They allow the plants to struggle. Then, when they feel the time is right, they say, "Alright, let them have it." And shower them with water as needed.

If this isn't done, the farmer risks creating a bunch of soybean plants that aren't firmly rooted in the soil.

It's similar to people in life; whether they realize it or not, they need struggle & adversity in order to fully develop properly. We can identify people that are soft & coddled, that don't know how to work. Now more than ever. They're ill-suited for life. Perhaps shielding them from every real pain, struggle, adversity seemed like a kindness, but in the end it tends to be a disservice.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

As someone who upvotes reasonable policies that promote success of the individual, and of society at large (read: progressive), this is true, but the important part is that the greater the adversity, the less people who will make the cut.

Framed this way, the seemingly optimal outcome (in this example) can be found by: asking kids to solve tough, but interesting problems, while also having already let them know that if they want to take on something that's well outside their wheelhouse, there is a teacher available to help with the tricky parts if the parent isn't able to. Psychological safety, in other words.

Throwing kids or adults into deep water without at least the possibility of help means a lot of people won't even make the attempt, and those who drown become poignant examples of why trying something new is bad. It's a doubly damning result, both for the individual, and society.

Policies need to be considered systematically, in more than just cost/benefit methods, as there are a lot of knock-on effects to any decisions.

For example: in reading what sounded like a good idea earlier, what happens to people who still struggle or can't succeed? Case rested.

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Agreed, and people aren't plants. Balance & moderation in all things. 👍🏻