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[–] tyler@programming.dev 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ranked choice is quite terrible actually, barely better than Plurality (also known as FPTP). The center for election science has a whole article on it here. https://electionscience.github.io/vse-sim/

3-2-1 voting and STAR are the best choices, but the CES actually advocates for approval due to logistics and people getting confused by 321 and star.

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[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Decommodify housing as well

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 6 points 8 months ago

Dude I'm voting for you

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Honestly at this point the only thing you are keeping is the English language.

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[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Ranked choice voting is clearly a better choice than plurality voting, but if you're not familiar with STAR voting, please check it out:

https://www.starvoting.org/star_rcv_pros_cons

https://youtu.be/oFqV2OtJOOg?si=pQ1R3wpPmzOcaO17.

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It all starts with the top - proportional representation.

It still amazes me that states have those proposition votea/referenda started by petitions and yet there isn't a movement to get proportional representation on the ballot? Or if there is it seems pretty quiet from outside the US.

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[–] AuroraZzz@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Should also include "tax the church"

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Why would a two party system implement ranked choice if everyone is stupid enough to keep voting for them? They're not going to shoot themselves in the foot.

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[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Convert corporations into Worker Consumer Cooperatives to prevent investor wealth accumulation and regulatory capture and align business towards worker and consumer interests rather than short-term profit seeking.

[–] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So, some of these are great. And some of them are so unrealistic they will NEVER happen in a trillion universes. I don't think it's healthy or productive to conflate great talking points with this crud because it just devalues the argument as a whole.

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[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Can you please create a community for this? I'd love to be able to discuss each point separately, and suggest others.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (5 children)

dunno how you mandate people vote. the rest looks like an ambitious but overall laudable start.

[–] Winter8593@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Australia already does it

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[–] CaptainProton@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

MANDATORY voting... Let's be real, we have people who are unable to read the candidates' personal statements, you really want them voting?

That'll be used to get President Camacho legislating Mandatory plant watering using Gatorade.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

i think your biggest problem is how you are getting any of this done with opposite financial incentives in the way without a literal revolution.

[–] noisefree@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Can you explain what you mean by this?

Collateral for loan is realized gain

Functionally how would that work? Maybe I'm being obtuse here, but it sounds like a Catch-22.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Currently what billionaires do is never sell their assets so that they never have to pay capital gains tax (since they haven't realised the gain), but then take out large loans using those assets as collateral and live off the loans. That allows them to enjoy the benefits of their capital gain without ever paying tax on it.

The line you quoted is saying that if you use some asset as collateral for a loan then for tax purposes that should count as realising any gains in value

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I think the actions on this list would improve economic conditions for the middle class.

I’ll just say if prostitution is legalized, then there needs to be something that ensures that someone isn’t coerced into it somehow, or sex trafficked into it.

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[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It has no chance of becoming a reality without the help of moderates and liberals who have made it very clear they would rather lose to MAGA than compromise with leftists and progressives.

People have yet to acknowledge the first implications of this. If we believe the numbers of progressives and leftists are growing there will come a time when we begin winning primaries but will lose general elections consistently because moderates and liberals suddenly won't "vote blue no matter who". Which means fascism isn't just a possibility, it's guaranteed.

If moderates and liberals don't make different choices there's nothing we can do.

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[–] farsinuce@feddit.dk 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Thank you for this approximate description of most Nordic countries.

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

No. You keep treating the symptoms.

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