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they add preservatives because there is water

the shipping costs are higher

it's just all-around modern wasteful

Less efficient in terms of transportation - you're shipping a whole bunch of water that doesn't add to the cleaning, which takes up more space, so less soap is being carried, etc.

Plastic packaging vs paper packaging for some solid soaps.

Some shower gels have microplastics for added abrasion, but so do some soaps tbf. Still, less good at cleaning because solid soaps involve more scrubbing.

Often can't get everything out of the bottle. Some bottles don't allow you to take the cap off and fill them with water to fully empty them.

Which do you think takes more energy to ship: One pouch of Kool Aid powder or a gallon of pre-made Kool Aid?

Basically this.

Going green is good, but the reality is it's out of the control of the average individual. Corporations sold us the blame, made us feel like we could do something so they could pass it off as our responsibility.

Even if every single low to middle income family took charge and did everything they could at their own inconvenience, the progress would still be far less in comparison to what the wealthy could achieve. Sadly, we barely ever think about this and even modern climate activists like that young Swedish girl have come to perpetuate the lie that the wealthy have sold us.

Not all recycling is useless. Aluminium and glass are two things that benefit greatly from recycling. Recycling aluminum takes 95% less energy than smelting it from ore, simply because it's such a complex process. And recycling glass is just a matter of re-melting it.

It all comes down to the same basic premise: we aren't going to consume our way out of the climate catastrophe. I don't blame people for thinking this, though. If you've lived your whole life under an economy and social order who's keystone and ultimate guiding force is consumption, it's easy to see consumption as your only recourse. Something something, if all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like nails. Our only option is to completely dismantle the systems that catalyzed the climate crisis: embracing anti-capitalism, crushing special interests, and ultimately empowering working class people.

I didn't mention recycling, but then, I didn't mention much about the topic.

It's not recycling that's the issue. It's the fact that millions of people are paying to move mostly water around, which has - in aggregate - a huge impact in terms of fuel consumption. Each bottle of hand soap is not expensive to transport, and cleans far less, than a single bar of solid soap. And this isn't the only environmental impact; recycling or no, bar soap requires far less packaging, and that packaging is often renewable resources that are bio-degradable, whereas liquid soap nearly uniformly requires quite a lot of plastic packaging.

These weren't the only points in ecological favor of bar soap; I didn't memorize the list, but the arguments were substantial, unequivocal, and not debatable. And easily discoverable online.

"Random Lemmy post starts movement crippling liquid soap market! News at 11.”

I humbly ask for deletion of this information, so it stays off Lemmy!

What information?

For animals things are done practically. For humans things are done profitably.

Only $4.49 for me

WTF are you guys doing over there? 0.55€ in Germany: https://www.dm.de/balea-cremedusche-mandelbluete-und-magnolie-p4066447234657.html

Flip the bottle upside down in the shower caddy.