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How does it stack up against traditional package management and others like AUR and Nix?

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[–] kjaeselrek@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I installed PyCharm via flatpak. I don’t appreciate that I can’t access vim via the IDE’s terminal, and so far that’s all I really have to say about it. I like that things are sandboxed, and I think maybe this wasn’t the kind of thing I ought to have used flatpak for.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried granting additional permissions via Flatseal?

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[–] 4vr@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

I didn’t want to containerize every installed app. Switched to Arch and don’t have to worry about it.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago

I never ever will use a flatpak or snap or whatever "application". I'm using good old .deb package.

[–] chat_mots@jlai.lu 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I love the idea and the philosophy behind ! I have no trouble with them for now, one click install perfect.

However I’ll never use it for programming and I don’t understand why people use vs code flatpak or other coding app, because the app is contained and cannot interact with your system.

[–] chat_mots@jlai.lu 2 points 8 months ago

@Shareni@programming.dev @CeeBee@lemmy.world thanks for the resources I did not know. I was pretty confused it was not possible to do it and here you are thx ! :)

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

the app is contained and cannot interact with your system.

It can. Think of it like allowing a phone app to interact with your stored files.

https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions.html#

[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

the app is contained and cannot interact with your system.

That's not how it works. Install Flatseal and you can give it fine grained access to whatever you want, or just everything.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I like it but I would prefer it to be more restrictive out of the box. Such as have apps declare a list of urls the are permitted to contact , a browser could have * .

I'd like a more granular filesystem list too more akin to apparmors were each file path needed is explicitly defined, in some cases you would need a wildcard or a directory but for most apps this could be done.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The sandbox can be very cumbersome when there is not a way to break out. I'm thinking specifically of command line tools for developers. You can poke holes in the sandbox to access the filesystem, but the moment you want to run an executable it won't let you.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Flathub doesn't accept CLI tools (unlike the Snap store)

Regarding modifying Sandboxes, try Flatseal

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[–] femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago

I usually prefer not to use them, but they flatpak for Prism Launcher comes with all versions of Java preinstalled which is convenient because I play verious versions of Minecraf, other than that I try to use xbps as much as possible

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I think Flatpaks are great for applications like Firefox, Steam, etc. where dependencies or delay in package distribution due to building multiple versions can be a problem.

However, there are many situations where Flatpak's sandbox can be more detriment than helpful, if the application wasn't developed with that in mind. It's not a silver bullet for everything.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Where's that Chris Pratt meme? --

I don't know what that is and at this point I'm afraid to ask

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[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 8 months ago

I dont use insecure tools to install software

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I love flatpaks and flathub. They're amazing for GUI apps, though there are still a couple of wrinkles that needs to be ironed out.

I would really love if it was better with regards to cli apps and developer tooling though. As someone that uses a lot of TUI apps that seriously limit how much I can use flatpak.

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