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Lawmaker: TikTok must "sever relationship with the Chinese Communist Party."

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[–] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 7 months ago

Yeah, only domestic companies and our government is allowed to spy on us with impunity.

Just frustrating to watch how short sighted this whole tiktok scare thing has been. It brought the data privacy problem to the forefront, and every effort was made to completely disregard privacy as a whole and focus on the China aspect instead.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is the goofiest culture war debacle I've seen. I'm very ancient so I remember parts of the Satanic Panic, I remember the scare about Mortal Kombat and Doom making kids into murderers, I remember scares about Jackass and knockout games and now we're at scary phone apps. At least back then these reactionary freaks could point at something with at least the veneer of being scary. Satan, video games with blood everywhere, Johnny Knoxville tasering someone in the balls. It's still goofy to get upset about those, but at least it's got the outline of a basic argument.

What is it now? The scary lipsync videos are gonna make your kids into Chinese communists? Good, I hope they all read "On Contradiction" by Mao. I fully expect a tiktok style red army by this time next year or I'm gonna be disappointed.

Also if this is supposed to protect kids then all social media should be banned for kids. That stuff is brain rot and kids deserve better

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't get why you draw parallels here. The reactionaries are against veneer-of-spooky pieces of media because of moral outrage bullshit. Media literacy is a thing. Nobody is going to believe in dragons or Satan.

The US government is against big China-controlled media platforms with loads of US users because platforms can control which kind of content users see. You can exert a lot of control over people if you show them only one point of view and make them think this is the majority.

I think the US has enough of a problem with home grown radicalized conspiracy nuts, but banning a China owned TikTok is still a very different move than banning D&D would have been.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

There is soft power in controlling a platform with a lot of people. Just look how TikTok used it to organize a massive campaign via hijacking TikTok feed to inform them about potential ban and redirect them to their representatives. During conflict, it can be used more nefariously. But them singling out TikTok while not doing anything against their domestic platforms does make it hypocritical and make people question their motives.

[–] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Any app or any business that is being largely impacted by legislation will ask their customers to push for a favorable outcome. I've seen American businesses ask their customers to call Congress about one thing or another a bunch of times. This isn't "nefarious" or "hijacking a platform" it's normal business behavior

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

When Anglos do it it's "100 wholesome chungus capitalism willed by God"; when Chinese folk do it it's "evil malicious debt-trapping CCP [slur] [slur] [slur] [ARCHAIC slur]". Feels like an application of the Parenti quote all over again.

[–] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

Literally all of Big Tech did this a few years ago with SOPA/PIPA and that stuff. People are acting like this is some crazy unheard of thing like they just figured out what the internet is a few months ago.

[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

massive campaign via hijacking TikTok feed to inform them about potential ban and redirect them to their representatives

Holy shit that is so fucking funny

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Under capitalism, profit is revered. However, if you make too much profit, a less profitable company gets to buy you for cheap because your skin is the wrong color.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This has nothing to do with skin color. It has everything to do with controlling access to data gathering tools. I don't think either nation has the best interests of the people in mind, but don't strawman this. Is very easy to criticize the actual thing that's happening.

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago (59 children)

This is in the process of trying to fire up another Yellow Peril. Access to data and profit might be the driving factors, but so is creating a new enemy class to scapegoat. Just look at how the media talks about China and how anti-Asian hate has been rising in recent years. Of course race is a factor because you need race to create a racial enemy.

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[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Back in your cage, weirdo.

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If the application is not divested, entities in the United States would be prohibited from distributing the application through an application marketplace or store and providing web hosting services.

I wonder if TikTok could continue to exist at the same level of popularity as an app that you download from their website, instead of using the app store?

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can you side load IOS apps? (Genuinely curious)

If no, then that's a big nail in the coffin. They could try and make it a web app, but that's not gonna be a smooth transition.

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[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

I wish they just wouldn't sell, and tiktok would go down forever in the US

[–] AzureRabbit@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It basically is an american app already and has lots of ex nato ministers on the board lol

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

Fr this is just redundant and voted on by dumbass boomers who know nothing about technology

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Biden signing this into law would cause him to hemorrhage zoomer voters. I think he’s arrogant enough to do it.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

tbf it's not as though he had a whole lot of them left to begin with

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