Scrollbars are becoming a problem : technology

[–] jcdenton@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Overlay scrollbars. Luckily in gnome and kde plasma you can disable them and get real always visible scrollbars

[–] z500@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

According to the article they took away the override setting in GTK4 and they aren't bringing it back

[–] nycki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does anyone know what text editor that is in the screenshot? Looks like vscode but less bloaty? I'm interested.

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[+] RagingRobot@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can make your own with css if you want. I noticed this guy can write a whole blog post about it but he didn't bother to do that on his own site lol.

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How disconnected from reality are you where writing your own with css is the appropriate solution?

Have you talked to a normal person recently?

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a software engineer who does this for a living so I guess pretty disconnected

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yep. It's called 'tunnel vision' and 'projection.'

You need to understand that most people are not software engineers and solutions that seem appropriate for you may not be appropriate for them.

Try to think of a time when you weren't so far down the computing rabbit hole and understand most people aren't. You need to appeal to them if you want to design something well.

If you're only appealing to software engineers and it's not an application specific to software engineering, then you're designing your product poorly.

Your comment just supports my assertion that users are expected to lower their standards to make developers' jobs easier. It's a backwards way of thinking, but this generation doesn't really seem to understand what's going on around them.

They're routinely proud to lower their standards so others can have it easier.

[+] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Eh, scrollbars are one of my least favourite UX design choices, though I respect that some people like them and do think that they should be a reasonable size for those who do want them.

There are so many better ways to navigate vertically scaling content now (not least of which, mousewheels). I think they served a good purpose in the early days of document editors and web browsers, but they're a bit of an easy out for poorly laid out content.

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[+] nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml -7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Wait, you guys don't use your mouse wheel or keyboard to scroll?

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, why click or tap once in one spot when you can swipe 10 times.

I think the 'gestures' crowd needs to go pound sand.

Either implement it as a setting, or don't force people to use it.

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[+] Psythik@lemm.ee -12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Doesn't bother me. I've been using scroll wheels on desktops and the two finger swipe on laptop track pads for so long that it has to have been at least 20 years since I've last used a scroll bar. They could disappear entirely and I wouldn't even notice.

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Didn't really bother me till I got bit by a dog and it fucked up my pointer finger.

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