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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 89 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Not to be "that guy" but lemmygrad is not about national socialism. They are but jobs that will do Olympic level mental gymnastics routines to defend anything and everything Russia or China does, but that doesn't make then Nazis, "just" on the same moral level as Nazis.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're tankies. Pure and simple. Sick of people calling them socialists, they aren't even communists. They're delusional anti-western China/Russia good, tankies.

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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Thank you for your service.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 58 points 2 years ago (5 children)

They're don't believe in socialism, they believe in authoritarianism. Therefore, they will defend any ancillary ethos.

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[–] gayhitler420@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I can still see the ml one but if it’s here…

I don’t understand, is this supposed to say that grad is nazis? They’re very explicit about not allowing nazis and adjacent stuff.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (17 children)

To be honest we don't have a real name for them. They say they support the tenets of national socialism, deride capitalism, engage in liberalism, and hate the working class.

Call them what you will. Nazi, neo-nazi, neo-neo-nazi, neo-bolshevik, I don't know. In any case it's all different flavours of fascism.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

"Tankies" that's the word for Nazis with a Russian coat of paint.

Edit: Lmao the downvotes. I just gave an objective description of the term OP is looking for. I'm a hardcore socialist myself and if you feel like the term "Tankie" is insulting you, then MAYBE you have an issue.

[–] byroon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Tankie originally meant people who supported the Soviet Union's military action in Hungary and Czechoslovakia in the 50s and 60s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I hesitate to call them tankies because they don't follow the same ideals. These people deride 'the libs' but engage in liberalism, calling themselves lgbtq friendly, then they call themselves communist but engage in materialism, they call themselves socialist but agree with authoritarianism.

I don't know what to call them besides fascist, but fascist is so non-specific when dealing with these groups that it doesn't help for identification. We actually need a new name for this group of fascists.

[–] Tedrow@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tankies don't have ideals, they're just red fascists. It's all an aesthetic.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Fascists gonna fasc.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're CCP or maybe Kremlin operatives organizing shills, LLMs, and useful idiots to spread propaganda.

That's why it's hard to say what they are. They aren't actually socialists, they're happy to support both extremes in order to increase division in their group opponents.

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[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 12 points 2 years ago (27 children)

Sure they disallow nazis, but they do exactly what nazis tend to do; alienate, dehumanize and propagandize.

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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The mods on lemmy.ml are a bunch of sensitive bitches. I once made a meme criticizing the lack of concrete rules... It got deleted

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[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I filter that whole server. It's a ridiculous amount of propaganda.

Users need the power to block servers.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago

Users also need the ability to block replies on specific comments/posts. Say anything that goes against their group think and you'll get a ton of replies

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[–] Nacktmull@feddit.de 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

~~national socialism~~ authoritarian communism

FIFY

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[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 19 points 2 years ago

average .ml behavior lol

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have the time. I mean, it's gotta be a pretty short conversation because there are no benefits.

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[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Response from Lemmy.world “Do you have a second to remove my boot from your ass?"

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