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[–] Sylver@lemmy.world 145 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I wish to share my most sincere gratitude and love with the service member and their family. According to the article this is the second self immolation outside an Israeli embassy in the US.

Israel is committing genocide, and the US is complicit. Don’t let anyone forget that.

[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Can anyone Eli5 us and Israel connection.

I don't know much about politics.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The middle east is an extremely geopolitically important region for the US because of all of the oil it has. The US therefore wants a country that it can use as basically a base of operation and client state in the region. Israel as a european settler colonials state is the client state that America wants because it largely is culturally closer to the US than the surrounding arab states. Consequently, the US defends Israel to the hilt regardless of the constant stream of atrocities that it commits.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Perhaps that was the initial impetus, but it is also 50 years out of date. Now-a-days, Israel is self-propagating even if they had zero strategic value for US interests, they are the number one donator's to many top Republican and Democrat campaign funds. In addition they represent a useful tax-haven for all the "high-tech" industries in the US. They are allow by law to develop for the MIC both hardware and software without being restricted by the usual import/export restrictions for national defense. Israel is considered international so corporations aren't taxed on income from Israel, and Israel will pay large subsidies to American corporations to open offices there. Of course those subsidies are just money the US Government pays to Israel anyway. It's grotesque, and even if Israel weren't an apartheid state, the incestuous relationship the country has built with the US ruling class should give anyone with morals pause.

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[–] sadreality@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I did not realize this happened in the US.

News coverage of this is super sus

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

News coverage of this is super sus

How so? Every article I read mentioned where it happened as well as US organizations performing the investigations.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

News coverage of this is super sus

I only learned about the first one due to this discussion we're in right here.

https://apnews.com/article/israeli-consulate-self-immolation-atlanta-protester-8f17dd72592f86797a45cda9b60605a5

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

same tbh. i think i vaguely remember about first one but kind just slid out.

was first one in the US too?

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Wow, I thought it was another story about the first one.

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@midwest.social 60 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Aaron Bushnell, hero and role model

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I wish he had another choice. We failed him by not being organized enough to welcome him as a comrade. Instead he chose to do the only thing he could. I admire his courage, but it's a damn shame we lost someone willing to die for Palestinians.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@midwest.social 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We've failed him, we've failed the Palestinians, we've failed our immigrants and refugees, we've failed our LGBTQ+ people and people of color, we've failed our poor. The story of America is a story of one failure after another.

And I say "America" even though this is world news, because he was American.

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@midwest.social 28 points 9 months ago (11 children)

I'd like to know why anyone would downvote this. Do you support genocide?

[–] hasnt_seen_goonies@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Maybe people are understandably uncomfortable with self immolation? Nobody has ever liked an effective activist in their time. The civil rights protesters in USA had a <25% approval rate in the 60s.

I think this person did what he thought was right, and I will remember him for that. And peace can't come soon enough.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@midwest.social 15 points 9 months ago

I fully agree. I have mad respect for him, which is why I expressed my admiration and support.

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[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sadly there are still a lot of vile people on Lemmy. A lot less than Reddit, but still plenty

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And they all stick to the same 3 instances.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

ACAB doesn't include cops/military who quit.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago

Absolute legend.

[–] AngWay@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

This is crazy

[–] FaizalR@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Will news/ acts like this change anything to US policy towards Israel?

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

Never. Israel pays too much to US politicians and election campaigns for the ghouls they get elected to ever change. If they do have a change of heart they are easily replaced.

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[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago

My thoughts are with his family.

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