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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Solidarity, brothers and sisters! If you or your co-workers find yourselves in this situation make sure you hold out for higher pay, better hours, more vacation -- anything -- if you accept a return offer. Make them (the C-class, the billionaires who did this) pay in at least some way.

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

yes if they want you back you NEED to demand higher pay. Many companies, even some of my clients, are trying to pull the "we need you back but we're going to pay less than what we previously paid you" bullshit thinking devs will be desperate enough to take it.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

"Then it sounds like you don't really need me back."

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I've found that people, I'm assuming young folks, don't understand that you have to ask for money.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This. Use their desperation to your benefits.

Demand no probation since you were previously a good employee. Demand higher pay, better benefits et al, hell, a signing bonus and backpay for your unfair dismissal, go as far as you can. Remember, they just realised that they need you more than you need them.

Use that knowledge to your advantage.

Extra week of vacation too. Don't forget you need time off.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You’re gonna want that higher pay when you’re spending your days unraveling spaghetti code written by AI.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Exactly. Like the COBOL coders around Y2K did.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

hold out for higher pay, better hours, more vacation – anything

Not immediately. Take the job now and get the finances under control. But don't stop interviewing and applying, and move from a position of strength into a better job when it comes around. And if you're back at the old job that ditched you, then ditching them isn't so hard this time.

Always take care of the basic needs - money for food, money for clothing, money for shelter - before moving up the Maslow pyramid.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To the fervored AI-bros: I hate to say "I told you so" but...

Wait, no, I don't. I fucking told you so.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

... at the same or higher salary, r-r-right?

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

And this surprised nobody

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Stupid CEOs seem to be stupid suckers/marks for so much "corporate astrology", mesmerized into a greedy stupid stupor by the same old soothing, stupid magic spell: "more automation... less meatbags..."

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ai sucks, it can do some averaging but that's not what actual jobs are

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah. The issue isn't what Ai can do, but more that CEO/CIOs have been sold magic beans.