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Did anyone make backups of these videos? People can republish these can they not?
People say that the internet never forgets... but they didnt take into account the centralization of the internet and the control they have over the content.
It might be crazy to think this... but imagine in a few years all videos and posts and articles on various sites documenting the genocide were fully purged. Leaving only people's frail memory of events. Even the IDF and Israeli civilians incredibly incriminating videos would be removed, and anyone caught with an archive on a personal device could be criminally charged or have it taken from them for destruction.
Basically this shit is beyond 1984. And I don't use 1984 that often as a metaphor.
It might be crazy to think this... but imagine in a few years all >videos and posts and articles on various sites documenting the >genocide were fully purged. Leaving only people's frail memory of >events.
When you realize that this is the way a majority of people (at least in america) live by default, its really not that crazy. I work a blue collar job and I promise you no one out here gives a shit about any of this. If given the option, they would probably willingly and purposefully "push delete" on this entire topic because they are sick of hearing about "the bullshit". Also why data archival is of utmost importance.*
I dont know how formatting works. But i think I got my point across either way.
There's a vast amount on TikTok I imagine will be scrubbed after the sale finalizes
I feel like aiding war criminals in deleting evidence should get your company destroyed.
Maybe not all of Alphabet unless we can prove this was an initiative started from the top, but Youtube should be diassembled for one-sidedly purging evidence. Hopefully, those accounts kept offline copies.
Nothing, no matter how bad, evil, terrible, treasonous, or ihumane, will destroy youtube. Except if they fail to honor a C&D from Disney.
I moved to NewPipe - no ads, and you can import your yt playlists and subscriptions so you don't have to start from scratch. Plus it plays in the background and if the phone screen is off
It's still youtube though. The videos are still being hosted by yt
NewPipe is fantastic and I encourage everyone to use it if they can, but I can't really see how it's related to the topic.
The major obstacle for me is recommend videos as I almost exclusively use that and youtube knows what to show me (good factual science channels, nothing with AI used at all, gaming and tech news, essays and documentaries etc.) and no other app than the official youtube one does that as far as I'm aware. (I use ReVanced though). I've really tried to jump over to newpipe and grayjay but I miss so much and never discover any new channels through them.
Until next year when "sideloading" dies, and we're back to square one.
Didn't know about the subscriptions and playlists. This will probably make me try it.
This is complicity in genocide.
But they allow far right extremist content.
They actively encourage it in fact.
Does anyone got those videos as a torrent so I can seed them ?
I curse myself for not downloading them... but there was so so so so so so so so goddamn much...
Disgusting complicity in genocide. These tech companies are evil.
This is what social networks do, the assholes at the top don't mind erasing accounts and deleting comments when they are inconvenient for them. It is a more effective version of book burning.
That can't be. Every time I point out that youtube is a HORRIBLE place for people to make the source of record for movements, history, and general archival, and that blogging and text are more durable and necessary for these exact reasons, I get downvoted into oblivion. It must be a problem with reality because video good and video is the future and only reach matters.
Well, YouTube obeys its BIG BROTHER like a slave, what did you expect?
Boycott Google
Is there another alternative to YouTube? One that isn't a right wing hellscape?
Peer tube?
Problem with PeerTube is the content is pretty scattered and there's frankly just not that much normal content. There's relatively a lot for like Linux stuff, but other than that there's not a ton. Also, there's no way to compensate people, so hard to attract content creators (this is both a plus and a negative tbh).
Other problem is that, like pretty much all fediverse stuff, it's possible to wind up on an instance with a bunch of Nazi content federated to it. Of course, since YouTube has Nazi content, this isn't really much different.
But for documentation of significantly newsworthy footage, it seems like the place to upload. Which might spread awareness of the site itself.
For content that needs censorship, I’m stumped on a suitable solution.
YouTube is one of the platforms that started at just the right time. People only know about it because it popped off in about 2005/6 . The creators didn't get paid, at least I don't think they did, it was just a lot of fun. Correct me if I'm wrong, maybe the first content creators did get paid.
Video content creation wasn't a thing that far back.
YouTube was (in my experience) the first site at all where you could click a video and not wait 3 years for it to load, plus having a UI around it.
Most people's Internet speeds weren't even close to being fast enough to consistently load them fast enough to want to watch more than a few in a session. Decent waits and buffers throughout still made it painful. Just less painful than it was before.
Most other videos back then were scattered around on separate sites, and related to the content on the site, and they usually had to download completely before even starting to play. (Kinda like pirating a movie these days)
So given that most people couldn't use other sites and tolerate it for long, YouTube created a market that didn't exist before, and there wasn't a content creation machine in place ready to go.
That kinda took off as more and more people got broadband connections and started being able to watch almost as soon as they clicked a link.
I don't have hard dates for this, just an impression from memory of the era.
So the "creators" were just random people filming slightly less random things. There weren't well known channels, or filters for different genes or topics. You could choose from "dude filming an animal do something funny" or "something unlikely to be caught on camera being caught on camera".
And most of it was shot on terrible cameras (since digital cameras were still going from "looks like objects filmed through 4 layers of plastic" to "really tiny footage of decent quality", there wasn't much that existed to draw a lot of people other than a feeling of hoping to stumble on the newest really cool clip.
But, since capitalism exists to make everything worse, the market got its act together shortly after. But not immediately. It took a whole new kind of infrastructure to get it moving.
People needed better digital cameras (unless you thought transferring from analog tapes was a fun weekend), better Internet, and the site itself has to start figuring out how to run things to make a better experience.
Google buying it was both a great infusion of capital to help it as well as being a cancer injection that would poison it.
I like the concept of peertube, but it's not gonna take off in its current state. I don't think anything takes off without capitalism happening to it these days. If something takes off, it's probably fruit of a poisonous tree. Can't have any good new popular technology without it being tampered with by billionaires
I remember video hosting sites before YouTube. The only one that I can remember now is stupid videos. Stupid videos was like watching a compilation of people falling down. YouTube was unique in that people created videos specifically for YouTube
I don't really remember how slow things were because slow was just normal to me. I think the slowness was more to do with dial up or slow DSL speeds. We had to be patient back then.
It gets fuzzy because show means different things when you're mixing pay and present speeds, as it's a relative term. Everything was slow back them by today's standards When I first started torrents I was on a 1.5Mb connection, which felt screaming fast at the time, but now it feels crippling because everything has board to take advantage of the extra speed for more ads and tracking data. Plus now videos mostly default to 1080p now, but back then 4:3 was the typical ratio on most computer monitors, and HD wasn't even born yet. Widescreen was still a baby.
I had visited some of the video sites back then, but I was more preoccupied with school and online gaming to give it a whole lot of thought for what was mostly people tripping on stuff and machinima type stuff.
Not an exact alternative, but a lot of Youtube creators are on Nebula. It does require a subscription, but every creator is part owner of the service so your money goes directly to them.
Nebula is the only thing remotely comparable.
I'm loving it. But its not a "search what you want and you'll find it" like YouTube is. You can't search for a video to DIY your bathroom tile.
That alternative simply doesn't exist.
If you treat it like podcasts i.e. follow creators you like (just about all of them are also YouTubers) theres some excellent content there. And the creators are all stakeholders so no daddy capitalist screwing with algorithms.
PeerTube is the open source federated one. But discovery is next to impossible on it.
That work at such a scale, with "popular" content creator being able to actually share their content, for free? No, not really. There are small scale initiatives, but you likely won't find much of the mainstream people on them. And, depending on what you use, you won't find much at all, because searching for content is a mess unless you are directly pointed to it from somewhere else.
There is a big issue with making up an alternative to youtube, at anything approaching the scale of youtube: it represents a lot of content, streamed from servers under strict time constraints, to many dozen/hundreds/thousands of people. With a centralized infrastructure that requires a lot of servers, spread over many places and many different networks. And these cost money. Using peer to peer at such a scale isn't that great either, although with more popularity it could improve.
Existing large providers such as youtube can handle this because they have such a vast CDN available, which allows sending one copy of a video into a region once, then spreading it across multiple diffusers, who then have a reasonable load on them.
In a move that surprises no one, Alphabet Inc rebrands to MINITRUE
This just tells me that Israel has pedo videos of the decision makers at Google.
It isn't even like that, Alphabet is humoring Trump and the global far right because it's more profitable, just like being "woke" was more profitable for them in the past.
Knowing why in these examples is important but it'd be nice to NOT see every big name just lean right this model of government we're struggling with. STOP BEING COMPLICIT WITH ISRAEL. They are acting as terrorists. Anyone who commits those atrocities needs to be exposed, doesnt matter who. This is a humanitarian issue with our whole civilization.
It does make me think twice about ever purchasing a google pixel. What another android phone that has good spam call protection or app?
Android in general is on its way out because google decided to remove sideloading programs that don't have their approval.
Buy a refurbished Pixel and slap GrapheneOS on it
YouTube has also quietly deleted all the videos of 9/11 first responders who said they heard explosions.
Explosions of what exactly?
Skimmed the article (yay for reader view) but it doesn't really say WHY the channel was deleted?
I am not in the slightest bit shocked by google bending over backwards to pleasure trump and netanyahu. But this also doesn't seem like their MO. They are usually "good" about explaining what new rule they invented and why that suddenly gave a channel 40 strikes retroactively and I am not seeing that here?
Whereas there are a few mid-size channels that have allegedly been flagged "by AI" as being other bad channels? Which... actually seems more likely since it is less youtube taking an actual stand on anything and more just deciding the ai slop channels that stole footage are the originators and to ban everyone involved.
It's also possible, not having seen the videos in question, that they simply did violate YouTube's rules regarding graphic content. YouTube has had a terrible record of banning important content despite its societal value because of rigid adherence to ill-thought-out content policies. AI takes that problem and turns it up to 11.