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cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/5335

As the Trump administration continued its illegal freeze on food assistance, the US Department of Agriculture sent a warning to grocery stores not to provide discounts to the more than 42 million Americans affected.

Several grocery chains and food delivery apps have announced in recent days that they would provide substantial discounts to those whose Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits have been delayed. More than 1 in 8 Americans rely on the program, and 39% of them are children.

But on Sunday, Catherine Rampell, a reporter at the Washington Post published an email from the USDA that was sent to grocery stores around the country, telling them they were prohibited from offering special discounts to those at greater risk of food insecurity due to the cuts.

"You must offer eligible foods at the same prices and on the same terms and conditions to SNAP-EBT customers as other customers, except that sales tax cannot be charged on SNAP purchases," the email said. "You cannot treat SNAP-EBT customers differently from any other customer. Offering discounts or services only to SNAP-eligible customers is a SNAP violation unless you have a SNAP equal treatment waiver."

The email referred to SNAP's "Equal Treatment Rule," which prohibits stores from discriminating against SNAP recipients by charging them higher prices or treating them more favorably than other customers by offering them specialized sales or incentives.

Rampell said she was "aware of at least two stores that had offered struggling customers a discount, then withdrew it after receiving this email."

She added that it was "understandable why grocery stores might be scared off" because "a store caught violating the prohibition could be denied the ability to accept SNAP benefits in the future. In low-income areas where the SNAP shutdown will have the biggest impact, getting thrown off SNAP could mean a store is no longer financially viable."

While the rule prohibits special treatment in either direction, legal analyst Jeffrey Evan Gold argues that it was a "perverted interpretation of a rule that stops grocers from price gouging SNAP recipients... charging them more when they use food stamps."

The government also notably allows retailers to request waivers for programs that incentivize SNAP recipients to purchase healthy food.

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Others pointed out that SNAP is currently not paying out to Americans because President Donald Trump is defying multiple federal court rulings issued Friday, requiring him to tap a $6 billion contingency fund to ensure benefit payments go out. Both courts, in Massachusetts and Rhode Island, have said his administration's refusal to pay out benefits is against the law.

One labor movement lawyer summed up the administration's position on social media: "Can't follow the law when a judge says fund the program, but have to follow the rules exactly when they say don't help poor people afford food."


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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 hours ago

So the rule of law doesn't apply to the rulers, they have the right to disappear anyone they want, they can airstrike people without any evidence, and now they are starving their own citizens.

Why are we not allowed to talk about these people being executed for their blatant crimes?

[–] D61@hexbear.net 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

SNAP-EBT, pricing required to discriminate between "hot bar" and "cold packaged" foods.

Also SNAP-EBT, pricing required to not discriminate after... umm... its physically goes away.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 23 points 11 hours ago

Sounds to me like lowering prices was always an option.

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 39 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

North Korea are the ones that starve their people btw

[–] LadyCajAsca@hexbear.net 20 points 13 hours ago

This can only escalate...

There needs to be a revolution and a red terror to banish these people (capitalists and capitalist collaborators) from government.

[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 30 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Brutal bloody revenge upon these people is a perfectly legitimate, just desire and I'm tired of pretending it isn't.

[–] BarrelsBallot@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

no let's focus on supporting progressives and voting the very sorry nazi guy in

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 43 points 16 hours ago

The government dictating what businesses can and can't do o7 Comrade Trumpy

Ironic that government can command business but only with the aim of making the people suffer more

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 78 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

A country where the government tells capitalists to be less kind. stress

[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 48 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

yeah let's starve our people, threaten to sic the as of yet unpaid military on said starving people, and also prepare to bomb like three more countries for nakedly imperialist reasons without even bothering to manufacture a casus belli media circus for any of them

I can't imagine the military will actually end up going unpaid if the US is serious about doing regime change in Venezuela, so either the shutdown kayfabe ends before that, or the troops continue to get paid directly from the coffers of the capitalist class.

This should heighten the contradictions a fuck ton, right? The capitalists are essentially outright saying that they are willing to pour infinite money into their imperialist adventures without question, but damnit they just can't come up with the much smaller amount of money it takes to feed everyone, sowwy have you tried learning to vibe code?

Maybe they think they're untouchable since they've gotten off scot free from a million plus covid deaths while putting down the BLM movement, but idk I can't help but think mass starvation represents a totally different beast in terms of the potential for radicalization than either of those things.

[–] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 55 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 40 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 30 points 18 hours ago

DAE communism when no food

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 71 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

So the outcome they actively want is people starving?

People think this will cause spontaneous mass riots or something but the reality is that you'll just get a rise in shoplifting and a rise in people who don't do that quietly starving to death in their homes. If a million people can die of covid without a riot then a million people can starve to death quietly too. That shit does not spontaneously occur, it only occurs through organising.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If a million people can die of covid without a riot then a million people can starve to death quietly too. That shit does not spontaneously occur, it only occurs through organising.

Why are people organizing to die quietly? confusion

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 11 points 13 hours ago

The riots are "that shit" baka. maddened

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 63 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

The BLM uprisings happened when a million people were dying of COVID.

This shit does spontaneously occur, the problem is that it also burns out just as fast. Then reaction seizes on the moment and uses it to advance their agenda, because they are organized. "Defund the police" went from a spontaneous slogan by people harmed by police to a rallying cry for increasing funding to police and removing DAs/judges that didn't send children to adult prison.

[–] mononoke@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Even that started as "abolish the police." That was too radical, so they went with "defund the police." That, too, was too radical, and turned into "fund them more, but include sensitivity training." The sensitivity training was not included; too radical.

[–] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

BLM uprisings happened because we got another high profile martyr. Not because of covid, in spite of it.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

There's hundreds of of martyrs a year in the US. I think it was the pressure cooker of COVID that helped push what would have just been yet another police murder into action.

Regardless, it was spontaneous.

[–] Red_October@hexbear.net 26 points 17 hours ago

They’re likely attempting to create a further mass culling of the poor and relying on Americans’ tendancy to fight each other for scraps rather than organize a legitimately leftist, continuous resistance against the parasite class that isn’t picked apart by liberal scum. Due to the U.S.’ glorification of every man for himself, dog eat dog, moralist, theivery culture. It’ll be very interesting if things don’t go entirely that way.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 59 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The soviet union was bad because Stalin starved people

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 44 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Horrendous. But also telling that they're not in the least afraid of going this far.

Either:

  1. they're deluded enough to think that people on SNAP are going to turn their ire on Democrats

  2. they think Americans are so propagandized and beaten down with atomization, individualism, the protestant work ethic and other myths and bullshit that nothing will come of this so why not kill off some poors

  3. they believe this will lead to riots and such and desperately want that and believe they can control it and use it to their own ends

or I suppose there could be 4) which they think is this will force the traditionally spineless Democrats into capitulating by putting more pain on people which I guess fair enough, not a bad bet even if it is an awful angle to have to stand behind with your brand flag waving.

Also bad on the supposed opposition (Democrats) for not noticing how this was written and could be interpreted to do just this and not just rewriting it in some sort of rider bill 10 years ago when they had huge majorities. "treating them more favorably than other customers by offering them specialized sales or incentives" What is the point of this even? Oh I know. They wanted it in there because the frothing mass of poor hating people in this country which includes many who vote Democratic would be scandalized and enraged to see the "moochers" on food stamps getting special deals and great pricing and being "rewarded" for being poor so in a pure optics move that makes sense only in the diseased context of the American civil religion and the Protestant work ethic they did this to avoid the Republicans hammering on about it.

amerikkka

[–] D61@hexbear.net 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

#3

Any push to make a media spectacle out of any level shoplifting will be propagandized as "a riot" or "looting" or "organized shoplifting" on a mass scale. No actual riots or organized looting needs to actually happen.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, if two people shoplift in a single day from the same store it's going to be classified as a riot and looting.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 12 points 16 hours ago
[–] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 48 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

So the food desert problem was way worse than it seemed. Not only did places have few grocery stores for miles, but the stores that did exist were centered around people who couldn't afford it without SNAP. When that goes away, the stores go away.

I don't want to recenter this on electoralism but it's funny that state-run groceries were an issue on Mamdani's campaign before SNAP funding was frozen. Now that funding is frozen, here is a good test case for that idea. Kind of like how Bernie was talking about healthcare and then he ran during 2020 when COVID was popping off. It's so frustrating because even though they're reformists, they latch on to the right current. But after 2020 people just kind of gave up on healthcare and let it decline further. Now communities are losing their only hospital. Mamdani seems to have the lead and may likely win, but I'm assuming his grocery project will go the same way.

[–] ClassIsOver@hexbear.net 39 points 19 hours ago

If a law makes you a worse person, it's a garbage law and should be broken.

[–] musicpostingonly@hexbear.net 48 points 20 hours ago

the cruelty is the point

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 30 points 19 hours ago

People not on government assistance a lesser known protected class

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 37 points 20 hours ago

this shit is not ending cowboy-cri