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[–] lefthandeddude@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 6 days ago (5 children)

At this point, ICE is just a group of people who harass Latinos based on racist criteria. It doesn't even have to do with immigration.

As a white person, I think of the German people who did nothing when Jewish people were gradually stripped of rights, before the eventual death camps, and I'm not actually sure of what to do. I also am not really convinced that there are no Latinos being sent to death camps right now. If there were, would I know somehow?

My political views are somewhat moderate. I just don't like racism.

Is there anything I can do that will have any meaningful impact on protecting Latinos from this racism? I do not consider protests to be meaningful and I am not asking for any suggestions that are illegal, especially since the government probably trolls these posts. I feel like I'm being a bad person by doing nothing.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Supposedly that’s already happening. Many of the people that were sent to alligator Alcatraz were never seen again. They weren’t traceable. And yet neighboring countries are reportedly finding bodies washing up on their shores. The running theory is that the US has been flying them out into the ocean, dropping them in there to drown to disappear them. It’s horribly evil, and yet it’s plausible.

We’re almost to the end of the end of the poem. I fully expect to hear “and then they came for me“ any day now

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm German and when I was in elementary school in the 90s we learned about the Nazi regime. An old woman visited our class to talk about what is was like for her as a child under Hitler. I remember that she said some people just disappeared and noone really knew why. There were rumours about prisons or labor camps but noone knew for sure what happened to the people who disappeared. She only learned about the concentration camps after the war was over.

I bet in a decade or so we will learn about all the horrors that are really going on right now.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Nope. The US doesn’t learn. It markets.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Have you got sources on the bodies thing? I'm going to look for myself now but just curious where this is reported because I haven't seen anything

FoundNYT article but it's more about people America is killing in boat strikes

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/23/world/americas/trinidad-bodies-us-strike-venezuela.html

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Admittedly I hadn’t looked too deeply into it. My sister was talking to me about it and she’s generally more level-headed than I am. Under normal circumstances I’d dismiss it as rumor but looking around my country lately, it’s actually quite possible.

That’s why I said it was plausible. I’m not certain, but I fear it’s likely true.

[–] lefthandeddude@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It wouldn't surprise me if it were true. There's no transparency with where people are going, right? Some person (whose name we don't know) gets picked up, we have no idea who they are in the system, they end up who knows where. How would anyone even know if they were dropped into the ocean?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

That’s the point behind not keeping records. Last time Nazis kept records it bit them in the ass.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

You could warn your area if you see ICE around on this website.

Finding and getting involved in a local mutual aid group would be quite meaningful, as it would allow you to meet people who share your same concerns IRL, and be able to plan and organize for how to react in your area. It's very make a meaningful difference alone, finding a solid group is very important.

Attempting to unionize your workplace if it isn't already would be very helpful to further prepare for a General Strike (as they usually have strike funds to make a general strike financially bearable), which is pretty much our last non-violent option to prevent all of this from progressing. You can see how a general strike helped cripple Chile's government while civil unrest was occurring in this documentary.

I'd recommend contacting the IWW, who will gladly train you to become an organizer with proven techniques to unionize your workplace.

Lastly, I'd also recommend checking out the book Full Spectrum Resistance for a more complete guide on how to prepare and respond.

[–] lefthandeddude@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

https://www.iceinmyarea.org/ wouldn't let me on the website because I'm using Tor Browser in safer mode and WebGL is blocked (Vercel Security Checkpoint Failed to verify your browser Code 11) and I'm not willing to go on a website like that without using Tor Browser. I really don't trust anything that doesn't trust Tor Browser.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They’ve been chipping away at Tor browser for a while now. It’s well known that it can be fingerprinted now. I think it was like last year or something where they made a change they lied about and got caught. Eventually enough people had it that someone finally tested the damn thing and demonstrated the flaw. The tor browser people said too bad we’re not changing it. It was something that was intentionally introduced to enable fingerprinting on tor. The network itself seems very good but tor browser itself, not so much

I’m not saying to stop using tor, but you really should diversify your shit. Look into i2p, set up a reticulum node, get multiple options ready. The great danger of tor is that damn near everybody involved in darknet stuff is using it, which means it’s an incredibly appealing target for the feds who have demonstrated they are not to be trusted

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[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Get trained by a local rapid response team. You can't directly interfere, but by enabling people to exercise their legal rights, you can prevent a significant fraction of snatch and grabs and significantly slow ICE & CBP.

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There are two very obvious peices that show the government side is lieing... 1 - a spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security, said ... 2 - Then the agent “holstered” his fire arm

The main requirement to be a spokesperson for anything in this administration is to lie. And ICE has orders to escalate, not descalate.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

I liked the part where the victem is named but none of the ICE agents are identified. "Officer N.J." is all they say.

[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This comment section is full of fedposting.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Fr, people need to stop treating the internet as equivalent to IRL discussions. Like literally every comment is "shoot your local cop", I mean like, I'm not saying that I disagree with the sentiment, but like... seriously lol? How is suicide by cop gonna change anything?

Just as with computers, your brain also needs a "firewall".

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Real talk. People like to pretend they are the boogie man the right is trying to create. But outside of the superhero frog, most of us are just regular people.

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

People trying to get you to do or say something which could earn you a visit from the police. Open calls for violence or to break the law in some specific manner. E.g. "shoot your local ICE agent".

I'm not going to say that violence is never justified, but anyone loudly advocating it in leftist spaces online should be viewed with a very suspect eye. The online is very real and your posts here very much can be connected to your identity.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago

Interesting! And good to know. Thanks for the info.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

~~This comment section~~Every comment section on Lemmy is full of fed posting.

FTFY

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dress up as maga while you slash their tires, throw paint over their cars... letsgooooo bully trump and nazi's out

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago

Don't dress as MAGA, they won't believe it anyway. They already blame Jan 6 on ANTIFA. We need to take full, proud credit for our efforts. We need the world to know who is fighting back.

At their core, Conservatives are cowards, afraid of EVERYTHING - Liberals, gays, minorites, foreigners, other religions, women, women's genitalia, intelligenc, education, , morality, etc. That's why they will vote for anyone who will promise to protect them from their perceived enemies, no matter how corrupt they are.

So the best way to manipulate them is to tap into their fear. Right now they've been taught to hate us by the Conservative Propaganda Machine. We need to make them FEAR us to their core. That way, when we recover our country, we can terrorize them into slithering back under their slimy rocks, where scum like them belongs.

And if they ever dare to poke their heads out from under that rock, we aren't understanding, or empathetic, or want to show the good faith, or hear them out, or give them a second chance, etc. They literally embody the world's evil, and when they try to rise again, we will have to crush them mercilessly.

[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago
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