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Frustrated Windows 10 users are jumping ship to macOS.

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[–] Abrinoxus@lemmy.today 13 points 6 days ago
[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago
[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 88 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You mean having an AI watch everything you do isn’t a good selling point?

[–] hcf@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I don't think it's AI aversion. The problem is that Windows 11 guts the muscle memory that older consumers have built up from using prior generations of Microsoft Windows.

If a company is going to dick me over by suddenly changing/hiding/abstracting-away parts of their OS that I used to (an am used to) use on a daily basis, then I'd rather relearn a new OS from a company that doesn't have the track record of totally redoing their entire OS in the course of a single OS generation.

If I also have a little bit more disposable income and am anticipating a poor economic downturn, I'm going with the device that I can go to a physical brick-and-mortar place and have it serviced as opposed to the crap shoot that is any other Windows-licensed manufacturer's device.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

Windows 11 is just really badly designed

If the new design made sense I would be down for it. It doesn't though

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

doesn't have the track record of totally redoing their entire OS in the course of a single OS generation

I have a grandparent who’s been on macOS for a long time and would complain whenever they changed something. Usually not the whole OS, but something like the Photos app, which they completely redid like 7 years ago or something.

Also macOS is currently headed in the direction of merging with iPadOS, but they are making that change gradual.

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[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 59 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Those new Apple users are gonna be bummed when MacOS does the same thing in the very near future.

[–] bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The immediate regret will be when they discover that Ctrl isn't where they expect it to be, followed by the discovery that it doesn't get used for copy and paste anyway.

[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So far my only gripe with MacOS is my inability to remember how to copy paste.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

The command key is basically the control key in MacOS and most of your basic commands are the same.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Don't know if it's still there cause I haven't used a Mac since 2007, but if you go to the Control Panel and then the keyboard settings, there should be an setting to rearrange the function of the Control, Option, and Command keys so that they behave just like Control, Super, and Alt do in Linux and Windows.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

That’s the best thing about OSX. It doesn’t really change to new complete garbage every iteration. It is basically the same with different color schemes.

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The very first thing I did was swap around ctrl and cmd on my mechanical keyboard.

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[–] tahoe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Part of me wishes I was a Windows user because Microsoft gives so many good reasons to switch to Linux. But even though I don’t use any of Apple’s services, I’m just too well off on macOS, got no real reason to switch.

Not saying macOS will never suck, and it already does in some aspects, but its suck factor has been pretty stable for the last 15 years I’ve been using it.

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s really sad that macOS is the only major operating system that functions on API calls for UI elements and system calls. Part of what makes windows awful is the terrible UI inconsistencies between apps. 3rd party app can’t hook into the system or each other easily because there are so few shared APIs. It’s crazy that macOS has the best utility apps all because of the shared API library and that the other operating systems don’t want to copy or unify with them.

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[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean MacOSX put AI in the OS, Siri, and all their apps as well so I can't really see how the change would be do to AI. Privacy maybe

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

On MacOS, at least for now, AI isn't prominent at all. I've been using an M4 Air for a month before I remembered that Apple Intelligence was a thing and had to google how to use it. So far it only seems to be partially available in 1st party Apple apps which I don't use anyway.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Mail, Messages, Notes, Phone, Photos, Reminders, Safari, Shortcuts are all being integrated. That's outside of the whole image creation, integration into smartlook (basically windows search), and whatever else I can't think of at the moment. The one good thing I've seen is that you can turn it off. But it does scan your text to provide synonyms, summaries, rewordings... And that's just what it shows when I click intro.

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[–] zewm@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Have you actually used Siri? It’s a fucking joke Apple has no idea how to do AI. I think they will be better off than on Windows.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 12 points 1 week ago

Siri is bad but at least it has natural language processing. I think it's so funny how CEOs have no idea how LLMs work.

Over a year ago Apple literally ran an ad showing off an "Apple Intelligence" feature that you could tell nobody at Apple ran by the actual engineers before deciding it was possible. It (of course) has still not been released.

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[–] casmael@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unfortunately the word ‘despite’ has been badly damaged as a result of the improper loads applied by this headline. It looks like it’ll be out of action for at least a couple months, maybe past the end of the season.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

despite Microsoft's push for Copilot+ PCs

Not despite, because of.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 week ago
[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 33 points 1 week ago

Went to Linux on the old laptop. A smoothing transition as we were using Libreoffice for a few years before. For most people it is not the OS but the apps that stop you moving off Windows.

[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Out of the frying pan, into the fire.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Well, at this point more like out of the fire into the frying pan

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Apple's AI screwup may end up being the best move the company made since the switch to Apple silicon.

[–] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago

its like slipping on a banana to avoid a slash of a chainsaw

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[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Windows home and pro editions are now just billboards. Like literal billboards. I don’t know how people put up with this much garbage in their system. Microsoft is actively working against their users. Whatever users say they don’t like, Microsoft triples down on it.

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[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

!linux@programming.dev is right there!

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are very few sellers that have pre-installed Linux laptops which is what majority of people buy. So Linux is automatically discarded as an option in all those sales.

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 5 points 1 week ago

This is the way!

[–] BearGun@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 week ago

For anyone who has to/wants to stay on win 10 for whatever reason, here's a FOSS guide for enabling ESU updates, of course brought to you by a furry.

https://bsky.app/profile/socksthewolf.com/post/3m2depgbys22e

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Privacy on Windows is EOL, so Windows is too.

If you really need x86 for games, there’s SteamOS.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

It was EOL long long ago

The difference was that the user experience was reasonable

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[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I wish there was a Linux or BSD OEM that sells the same build quality/QA/QC as Apple.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I only know of https://system76.com/ but have no personal experience with them.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I do. They're garbage cleo laptops with a badge and no support. I had one, when it failed they refused to stand behind it at all.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

I've had pretty good luck with there support

However, my lemp11 is missing a bunch of screws and the firmware implementation leaves room to be desired

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago

Apple PC

So many Apple users' eyes just twitched

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