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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 187 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Easy. First you survey the existing literature for your theory. Chances are, somebody already came up with it, or, more likely, debunked it. If that's not the case, you write up a paper, presenting your theory together with its supporting evidence and submit it through the usual channels. I know that sounds pretty discouraging, but the chance of some rando contributing something meaningful are pretty close to zero

[–] officermike@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 120 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These people went through the process I described above. I'm not saying you need a degree to do scientific work. I'm saying you need to do scientific work to achieve scientifically relevant results.

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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

These aren't coming out of nowhere however. They are obviously being exposed to new material through their education and then extrapolating into some new tangent. These aren't epiphanies that just happen later in life unless you are working to understand these concepts. Not saying it can't be done, it just hasn't been done yet, and every generation builds upon the foundation of what came before it.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

And this would be larger with better education.

Because it's not always about the "potential of the student" if there's no support or validation.

Finland didn't have a gifted program, you're not supposed to be better at anything than others. Except in sports, where it's the whole thing.

There were special programs for slow kids. But none for fast ones.

First grade teacher put me in an empty classroom to read by myself when everyone else was just learning what sounds different letters make.

[–] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Nothing kills my motivation more than discovering something new in math and then finding out some dead guy beat me to the punch by several centuries lol

Then again sometimes it’s worse when I expect there to be literature on a topic and then discovering there isn’t even a wiki page for it.

Hell, most recently it was bi-intuitionistic logic. Originally studied in the 40s by one German guy who took bad notes. Main body of work done by a single math grad in the 70s (Rauszer) culminating in her PhD. Turns out there were errors discovered in her proofs and it was proven inconsistent in 2001. Only for two relatively young mathematicians to clear up that there are two separate versions of bi-intuitionistic logic which are consistent. This discovery and proof are found a paper that was published only this fucking year.

I asked a simple question about dealing with uncertainty in a logical system and instead of finding a well studied foundation of knowledge I was yeeted to the bleeding edge of mathematics.


Edit: in case it isn’t clear, by “new things” I mean new to me not new to the world; hence the aforementioned dead guys with published works on the topic. And when I say I was yeeted to the edge of math, I should mention that edge is well beyond my capacity to further. I had to learn a lot about notation for logic just to parse the paper, and I’m sure I still don’t fully understand it.

[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

Oh I remember you! You're the guy who claimed to be an engineer working with "ocular algorithms" when it turned out you were an undergrad who read a Wikipedia article about cuttlefish.

Now you're discovering "new things" in math because you were thrust to the bleeding edge of mathematics. Incredible stuff. Completely 100% real stuff.

Please do future you a favor and stop presenting yourself as some intellectual giant. It's not only cringe, but harmful to your actual academic growth. Some of the things you write are identifiable, what would happen if a professor for an undergrad lab you work at saw the way you write?

Edit: Tl;dr this is a child doing a Mutahar and isn't handling being called out very well. Zero accountability and everything you'd come to expect from a budding charlatan. Saved by mods for "civility".

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[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes but what if they feel REALLY clever???? U expect me 2 go thru all dat work? Ffs smh rn ngl u cap I swear.

[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Someone give them the Nobel price already!

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[–] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would love to know how many peer-reviewed papers have been published from independent authors with no degree or university affiliation, if any.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Does this guy count? He's been peer-reviewed a bunch I reckon.

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[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

They have some chance if they wrote code to find a counterexample to some obscure math conjecture

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[–] Hupf@feddit.org 70 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh you're a programmer? I have this app idea...

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago

No! I've seen this Rick and Morty episode!

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[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (3 children)

First of all, if you have a theory they rejected, clearly its because they are afraid of your massive intellect, pure jealousy to the point of refusing you entirely. So that means your theory is 100% fact, and you should write a book all about how you are a genius ahead of their time, and sell it on Amazon becoming a number 1 best seller and use that to propel you into micro-celebrity status and live off the royalties because thats what smart people do. Duh.

[–] Goodman@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

And go on the Joe Organ podcast ofc

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[–] GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

Graham Hancock moment

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[–] Hazmatastic@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Write letters to the press. Ripped from Control:

Dear New York Tribune,

Airplanes aren't real. I figured out how they do it.

The windows are TV screens. The whole thing moves on big tracks like a rollercoaster that moves through underground tunnels in the Earth. Airports are more like train stations.

They do this because the sky is full of monsters that they don't want us to know about. The planes we see in the sky are the monsters. The government made the Earth-trains look like the monsters so they could lie to us better.

Don't contact me.

Not real, obviously, but clearly the most effective tactic when no one takes your 100% legit theories seriously.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

AMAZING game. The Dead Letters department might be my favorite section of The Oldest House

[–] Hazmatastic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Absolutely, although I'm a Containment/Panopticon fan myself. Langston's dialogue is great, especially in the AWE dlc. Dead Letters is close behind though. The fish letter is excellent.

Playing AW2 right now after having watched a Quantum Break playthrough, so I've got the Remedyverse on my mind constantly and see it in everything. Such a dope company, can't wait for the next control. I think it's next on their development list, so hopefully soon!

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[–] pulsey@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago

You convinced me.

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[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are 99 crackpots for every genius without a degree.

[–] Heliumfart@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But that 1 in a billion could change the world

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Genius is what the ignorant call the results of dedication, a genius wouldn't let that stop them.

Now, that dedication becoming obsession and breeding mental illness like rabbits, that'll stop a genius.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"I have theories" is great, everyone should have theories and ideas.

But if you can't connect them to understood, known physics and systems that have been demonstrated over and over again for centuries, you're not really contributing anything.

"I have ideas for a really cool race car shape. I don't know anything about formula 1, I just have this neat idea. Why won't professional teams who demonstrate their efforts daily take my design seriously?"

Go to school, educate yourself with online courses, read every possible criticism or attack on theory, be your own worst critic and THEN if it survives knowledge and critique, you have a chance of being seen and noticed. This isn't about "encouragement" or "making someone feel better" and it's certainly not a plot by Big Science to keep the little man down, this is just how the process works and why you have phones and video games and soda dispensers.

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

1705542 is a prime number. How can I get my proof published?

[–] JustAnotherRando@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I appreciate that you chose an even number to claim as prime so nobody even has to check it.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey, not all primes are odd numbers! Give my man 2 some consideration dawg

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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It reminds me of this...

My brother in law was telling me about this amazing new tech called a Thunderstorm Generator which apparently filters out carbon from combustion engines. After seeing this... I just can't... It's too much...

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

That chart...

EARTH HAS 4 CORNER
SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY
TIME CUBE

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That wiki entry really does it no justice. That website was a raw stream of unhandled brain-gasm. It should have been preserved. Or maybe it was too dangerous exist.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here's the last archive.

CW: everything but misogyny, it's remarkable how little misogyny there is in a schizophrenic screed against Jewish, black, queer, and educated people

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[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 10 points 1 week ago

They put a lot of effort for that pdf...jeez, who wrote that should write more sci-fi or fantasy in general lol

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Hi. People contact me with theories all the time based on my published research. They tend to come from an oversimplified view of the problem.

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[–] Starski@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's a special kind of stupid to be too stupid to understand that you're stupid, to be so stupid you think you're smart. Man, what a life that must be, blissful ignorance.

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago

The maths department in my uni receives (or did when I was there) several proofs every year on general formulas to solve equations of degree >5.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 14 points 1 week ago
[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 12 points 1 week ago
[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

The biggest problem is that your theories are not going to equate to the depth, degree, and experience of people who've been over a decade in Universities studying their own, who receive grants and everything to do so. It may be a revolutionary theory, but every scientist has got their own. That's what you are competing against. Hell, there are plenty of brainiacs at each other's throats over whose theory they believe is right.

I have a personal theory that I believe can encompass a lot of phenomenon, but I lack the graduate level experience or the extraordinary intelligence to raise eyebrows, so it has to remain largely faith based. There are much more knowledgeable people who dismiss the basic core tenets of it. And unless you map it out onto some real math and start making predictions that can raise eyebrows, it will remain that, faith-based. Society doesn't give a shit about ideas, they give a shit about implementations of those ideas.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

ITT: Science and Engineering users debunking others attempts to contribute from an entry level

And then there's Maths where all you need is a fresh pair of eyes.

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[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is actually a pretty good parallel to programming

With an open source project, you gotta know how to clone a git repo and create a pull request

With such an advanced field as Physics, you need to have read other studies at a basic level. If you don't know how to write a basic study, you clearly lack the intelligence to talk about such things at a professional level

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lack intelligence, or lack education?

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago
[–] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Knowing how to write a good study is a matter of experience more than intelligence.

[–] shapis@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It’s both really.

When I was publishing my first paper after sending it in to a professor for review a few times he called me in and went line through line of the whole paper for about 4 hours explaining to me what I needed to fix and why.

A lot of it were things that came down to experience and that no book education could have given me.

People that believe they can make significant contributions need to go through the proper process. But ridiculing them before they even attempt is not the way to go.

A good point that Angela made in her video from what. I remember. I watched it a while ago was that these crackpots always have grand theories. It’s never a small contribution. In that sense. A good filter is just asking them to show why we should listen to them before putting effort into it.

You think you found a way to make warp drives work ? Show us a prototype.

Edit. I did live in the midst of academia for a while. But from my experiences. Reaching out to people in other universities. They had no real way of verifying a priori that I was who i said I was. And.no one ever told me to fuck off and very few people ignored me. From memory no one did. So it does make me wonder what kind of insane message that person is sending and to whom.

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