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[–] markz@suppo.fi 100 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We and our 938 partners value your privacy

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (4 children)

“Babe, but it feels better without a condom.”

[–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just one of the many perks of a stable monogamous relationship.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

We and our 938 partners value your health.

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[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

And all of them have stellar security. No data ever leaks anywhere.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

And don't forget these partners have other partners of their own.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unfortunately this is just the state of the web in the modern day. Virtually every site exists to serve you ads while simultaneously collecting your data and selling it to their "partners" in exchange for their content.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would love to see any actual verifiable positive ROI numbers directly linked to or resultant from the money a company spent to purchase these targeted ads.

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's the neat part, you can't, because the companies that run ad networks (e.g. Google and Meta) intentionally make the consumer behaviours market as opaque as possible. As the market maker, they have an economic incentive to withold information from their customers, because any mistakes from market participants due to information assymetries directly translate to profit surplus for the market maker.

We have long since moved on from simple pay per click/view pricing models to pay per "impression," the definition of which is not clear even to the companies that purchase the ads.

And in a somewhat ironic twist, one of the motivations for such extensive surveillance is the desire to quantify such ROIs. Statistics and analytics such as click through and conversion rates all require tracking user behaviour across vast networks.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've always thought (anecdotally - no substantiating evidence) that advertising on the internet, which is much different that advertising in a magazine or billboard, is probably a loss leader or close to it. The real value for the product manufacturer is the data they steal from you. In all honesty, I can't think of a product or service I've purchased that was based on an advertisement. 99.999% of the time, I know what I need or have a really good idea, and will research it on the internet extensively, depending on value, and make my purchase based on my research. It also could be that I have made it a concerted effort to never see any online advertisements on my network, so maybe I am not as affected as those who see ads in every square inch of their monitor every day, like they're on a porn site.

Network so tight I call it virgin. /s

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But the whole purpose of stealing your data is to better serve you ads. So I’m not seeing anywhere in your argument that shows actual profit.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Well, it wasn't so much an argument as it was a muse. I'm not a marketing guru and again, I am expert at nothing.I do run several businesses, but word of mouth is my advertisement.

The purpose of an advertisement, say in a magazine or on a billboard, is to sell you goods or services. Those goods or services are '$Price A' which is cost to manufacture, taxes/applicable fees, plus overhead and profit. On the internet, yet another element is added and a very invasive element: Data Collection & Brokering. So, without even selling you goods or services, the company in question is making bonus bucks from collecting your data and using it/selling/trading it. So, on the internet, the company in question is double dipping IMHO. Once for enticing you to buy their goods or services, and the most nefarious IMHO, collecting your data via all manner of sneaky ways. So, it seems to me, whether or not they sell you a product or service, they're already making bank on a global scale, and not affording you due compensation for creating the data in the first place. Creating takes labor and labor is compensated with $$. If it means billions of dollars to the company in question, then it's worth a lot to little ol' me. Even if it were just clicking a mouse or typing on a keyboard, your data has high value, and they know it.

I call this data theft. It is the very same offense if I walked into the CEO's office of a fore mentioned corporation, and picked up a paper weight, stuck it in my pocket, and walked out the door. It's data theft. Now it may be the bowl talking so feel free to spool me right up if I have err'd in my thought process.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I think the AI bubble is actually a deeper, more structural data bubble. There isn't actually a case for profitability, they're just doing it out of investor demands and inertia and because That's Just How We Do Things.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not only that, but literally the only reason we even have these popups now is because of recent European laws

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I mean the alternative is that they simply sell it without your consent.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah that's my point

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[–] faltryka@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

Because you are the product.

[–] jesale@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 week ago

938 customers, the users are the product

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 21 points 1 week ago

It's almost like they don't really value your privacy

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

In a literal sense. They're putting a price on your privacy, and there are 938 buyers.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The 938 partners who really really Really REALLY fucking hate you

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We value your privacy, that's why we'll sell your data to anyone that is willing to pay us money. We will sell it to literally a thousand different companies which will mix and match and resell you data to thousands more

It so so so so extremely angers me that companies ALWAYS FUCKING LIE.

We value your privacy

FUCK YOU YOU DO NOT

We're pissing u on your back and we tell you that you're getting a refreshing shower, please thank us for this insult!

Just be fucking honest that you don't give a shit, money is your only bottom line, and you would rape and murder my mother if you even thought it would make you money. Fuck all of you

I want a law that says that companies cannot behave like this. You cannot say "your call is important to us" every 2 minutes while I've been waiting on the phone for three hours to be able to return your piece of shit product that arrived broken, but you were too cheap to invest in basic customer support.

I want marketing and advertising outlawed. Completely. It's allowed for companies to lay out their products, but you're not. allowed. to. lie. No "we're the best!" Fuck you, you're the absolute worst. A company like Comcast should be forbidden from claiming they're good at anything as they suck at everything and only manage to continue to exist because of fucking lying through their teeth with their marketing.

these sort of shit popups is just the next logical step that starts literally with the first words being an absolute lie

Fuck this shit

[–] tlmcleod@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

They do value our privacy, but they just mean they're putting a $ amount on it, not that they care about it

[–] undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We value your privacy

And this is why we are going to violate it in every way possible!

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

It reminds me of

[–] kiagam@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They are honest, but not very clear. We could rewrite that as "we assigned monetary value to your privacy"

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago

Livechart.me ?

[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

hehe... you TOO can become a partner! We're having a special! Anyone willing to pay for partnership access coincidentally gets an unrelated trove of personal data!

[–] tordenflesk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Turn on the 'Cookie notices' filter lists in Ublock Origin.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

dw about it, your data will be safe amongst their friends! MyAnimeList and their 938 closest friends :)

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

To give you a better personalized experience™ of course!

Just block the partners, should still work. All of the anime pirating sites are riddled with ads.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

All of the anime pirating sites are riddled with ads.

As if the commercial sites were any better...

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[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is anime-planet which I use. There's also anilist. Don't know how private either of them are.

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[–] JanUwU42@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago

Switch to Anilist ^^ Many FOSS Apps available :)

Switching is super easy

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

MyPartnerList

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They took harem anime's to heart?

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Anilist & Kitsu. (Kitsu is OpenSource, I think)

[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago
[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

sounds like a good anime title

[–] adhd_traco@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago
[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Don't install anything that needs to invade your privacy so massively.

[–] Red5@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Self hosting a media tracker is an option. Ryot is great, others are available. It allows imports from myanimelist

[–] other_cat@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Unfortunate there's not a good substitute for MyAnimeList, I'm really not a fan of the website design.

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