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A statement from the California Highway Patrol issued Sunday afternoon called the recent firing of howitzers over Interstate 5 “unusual,” but the standing operating procedures that govern all artillery fire on Camp Pendleton make no formal provision for firing over one of the busiest roadways in the state

This is a great example of how fascism spreads incompetence.

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[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It is pretty funny that the Marines went along with this BS and managed to ruin their reputation even further than it already was while simultaneously reinforcing their image as a bunch of dumbass crayon eating fuckups who don't actually give a shit about honor or integrity. When they are willing to menace and endanger their fellow Americans for political reasons like this it is no surprise they also kill so many innocent civilians when deployed.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, this is an embarassment and betrayal of anyone who has ever fought to protect the US out of a genuine desire born from integrity.

It is a slap to the face, and a sloppy one at that.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

"Never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself."

This one is a wonderful concordance of pissing off the military because it was stupid orders they had to follow, pissing off law enforcement because they were placed directly in danger, pissing off state government because it's obviously illegal and designed to threaten their citizens directly, and being an unambiguous example with absolutely no kind of excuse "oh we're just deporting the rapists that's why we took your neighborhood's ice cream man away never to be seen again."

Personally I would like to assure Trump that I'm super triggered and intimidated by this kind of show of force, and would really like to encourage him to order the Army to drive tanks around at random on blue state suburban streets next, just so I can be really triggered even harder and lead further to his great success.

[–] sudoshakes@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

From the inside, let me tell you how this would go.

You are a marine on the gun line. Call you a lance corporal. You refuse a lawful and direct order according to the UCMJ. You would be subject first to a guaranteed NJP, which requires no jury and only commander’s discretion. You could be facing confinement, extra duty, docked or complete removal of pay, informal hazing, and you would be treated like a shit bird by everything walking for the next 4 years. You would be organizing pine cones by shape or color while doing mountain climbers and planks every day until you could retain consciousness. Your life would be over in the military at best.

If you are informed enough and smart enough to then demand a trial by court martial your life just got even worse. You would be brought before a court martial in a few months, but until then would likely face being put in the brig or confined until trial. All the above would apply, and now you risk a criminal conviction for refusal to follow orders and I would expect charged under several other articles of the UCMJ. They would find you guilty, as there is no leniency to jury interpretation here, you did in fact disobey a lawful order.

It was a monumentally stupid order, but it was lawful to the UCMJ.

If you did refuse and you were a SNCO all the above are true, but you would be facing even worse treatment.

As an officer all the same, 100% imprisoned, and would be dishonorably discharged after being removed of your command and spent time in the brig without pay. You would be made an example out of, and the military would be ruthless in this manner.

So in any part of this, up to the division commander, your life is straight over.

Now what did you gain?

Someone else from another fun line would follow the order seeing what’s happening to you and it would still happen. You would have thrown away your employment chances for life, endured prison, endured hardship someone outside the corps cannot fathom, and made no gain.

If you suggest they were to conspire with others to prevent execution of the orders, that’s punishable as even worse and could be up to execution or death if charged with sedition or mutiny.

For this? lol. Ok. Didn’t see you standing in front of the impact area as protest.

[–] jake_jake_jake_@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

What I am personally curious to see is if this was ever completed:

a waiver from Pendleton’s Range Operations Division — call sign LONGRIFLE

It seems they had a form waiver, that likely would include risk assessment. The article later stated that the military appeared to be following procedures outlined in the waiver/by the Range Operations Division, specifically when all firing ceased and a root cause analysis launched after the premature detonation.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because I haven't yet posted this in NCD:

From the halls of MontezuuUUuma

To the shores near San Ysid'~

We will sate our leaders eeEEegos

In the air, on land, and sea~

...

First to fight for might and fieEEefdom

And to keep our earnings lean~

We're around to claim the tiiiiitle

of United States Marine~

[–] sepi@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Did Encino Man call that artillery in?