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"We need to go beyond Signal" – How today's AWS outage shows the weaknesses of centralized apps | TechRadar https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/we-need-to-go-beyond-signal-how-todays-aws-outage-shows-the-weaknesses-of-centralized-apps

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[–] specialwall@midwest.social 43 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

And then you use a centralized service by Google to redirect the link rather than just using the link itself. 🙁

Here's the actual link: https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/we-need-to-go-beyond-signal-how-todays-aws-outage-shows-the-weaknesses-of-centralized-apps

[–] ItsPronouncedZed@lemmy.ca 28 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh jeez, that's embarrassing. I'm a Noob poster. I'll do better next time.

[–] specialwall@midwest.social 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I would definitely encourage you to edit the link for this post to include the correct one!

[–] ItsPronouncedZed@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 weeks ago

Yep. Fixed it the moment I replied.

[–] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz -1 points 4 weeks ago
[–] original_reader@lemmy.zip 30 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Instead of dismissing Signal, I wonder if it could be changed to support a federated model.

Just a thought, because Signal has seen widespread adoption. Getting people to change their messenger is hard.

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

Signal is against federation.

[–] Zyansheep@programming.dev 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

What about a peer-to-peer model with relay servers like SimpleX?

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Maube but Simplex really sucks balls IMO

[–] bluemoon@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

read cryptographers blogs. kike Saotok the furry iirc. also simplex has a cryptography report that it has failed and not implemented.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol a Google share link on the privacy forum. Anyone know where it goes? OP can you fix it?

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Andy Yen, the founder and CEO of Proton, which developed one of the best VPN and encrypted email services around, suggested that the Signal AW-based outage shows that "an European alternative not run on Big Tech cloud will be necessary to safeguard strategic autonomy."

Not supporting the puppet government of said Big Tech could be another good strategic thing to do, don't you think Andy?

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

He doesn't. He said on the issue of privacy the Republicans were more responsive than the Democrats.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 weeks ago

This was his tweet:

Great pick by @realDonaldTrump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.

Dec 4, 2024 · 10:27 PM UTC

Didn't age well, if you ask me.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

Which is actually crazy.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Matrix was developed by an Israeli company so hard pass on that. Signal looks like the best we got. https://hackea.org/notas/matrix.html

[–] specialwall@midwest.social 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

What exactly is your concern? It's a decentralized service, so it's not as if any of your data has to be controlled by them to use it

I can only understand the concern if it related to how many the chat room and users are mostly created in offical Matrix instance instead more be self-hosted and even that is a reach

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago

Onion is also decentralized, and everyone knows it's monitored by the alphabet agencies. So yeah, I'd consider a hidden encryption vulnerability a solid possibility.

[–] Zyansheep@programming.dev 1 points 4 weeks ago
[–] Undertaker@feddit.org -4 points 4 weeks ago

Decentralized services habe one huge advantage: Most people don't unterstand, how it works, where to register and do on. Additionally federation comes with lots of additional to get most of connections.

Therefore: Centralized is definitely the way but not using shitty big tech. Maybe backup infrastructure could also be a way.

And Proton? Couldn't stop laughing.