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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In order for the AI to get better by reading people’s posts we, the humans, have to start posting better. It’s not actually learning. It’s just predicting what should be next. And this is the real world. So asking people to voluntarily be better isn’t happening any goddamn time soon. (Especially not with the profit motive of Damocles dangling over our necks.) So this was always bound to happen. There is no graduate school of internet comments that the AI can attend after it’s done scraping Reddit.

And you know what I am certain of? That none of this tech is making us better. It might be making us worse! At least on the internet we certainly aren’t all our best selves! And it’s learning from that version of us. And that’s the last real shit it will “learn” from. I’m so glad that the financial wellbeing of billions of people will be impacted if this godforsaken behemoth collapse.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 15 points 16 hours ago

have to start posting better

Never beanis

[–] varmint@hexbear.net 23 points 19 hours ago

Move fast and break things, such as the entirety of human knowledge

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 31 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

When they say AI content went from 5% of the internet to 48% of the internet I also need to see alongside that a graph of the total amount of content on the internet.

Did it actually decrease human content on the internet or did it just massively increase the content on the internet with absolute horseshit?

[–] SeizeTheBeans@hexbear.net 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's probably even a step further and what they're actually measuring is new content created in that time span, even though they're not wording it that way. What I mean is AI content went from 5% of what was being created and put on the internet to 48% of all the content being created and put on the net. As bad as AI content is and as ubiquitous as it now is, considering how much there is on the internet and how long humans have been putting content on it, versus how recently "AI" (LLM's etc.) actually are, it would be absurd to say that almost half of what exists on the internet right now was made by AI. So not only did it not decrease human content, it hasn't doubled the content either.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The graph indicates that it's proportion of new articles. So half of what's currently being put on the web is LLM-generated.

[–] SeizeTheBeans@hexbear.net 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's what I said. I guess I didn't word it well.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Or I could be terrible at reading shrug-outta-hecks

[–] unaware@hexbear.net 3 points 11 hours ago

the one true leftist

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 13 points 20 hours ago

most likely latter than former

[–] RedSturgeon@hexbear.net 30 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You know what the best part about this is? Their capitalist answer to this isn't going to be to generate less content, it's gonna be to sell you a subscription to filter it out and you know there's gonna be premium human only websites.

The worse the internet becomes the higher incentive you have to pay for these services.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 28 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Human only websites you can only view by giving them your real name and government issued photo ID

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 16 points 19 hours ago

And it's still gonna have tons of bots, but if you point that out, they ban you.

[–] EatPotatoes@hexbear.net 58 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

In a slow way the internet nay sayers are right. AI slop is only part of it. Plenty of humans are also making easily consumed content gruel chasing the algorithm.

I really don’t like people’s nostalgia for the old web. Like try creating your own enclaves sure but realise it was always a voluntary thankless effort. What little we still got is amazing considering how many people sink hundreds of thousands of hours into YouTube slop or league of legends or whatever. Or how hard it is to self host with everybody trying to harass or scam webmasters.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 35 points 21 hours ago

it was always a voluntary thankless effort

Still is in the good parts. hexbear-static-logo

[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The Internet is so far away from what it could be under communism.

[–] SeizeTheBeans@hexbear.net 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It honestly makes me sad to think of the kind of grand achievement of human ingenuity the internet could have been... instead of the writhing, cancerous mass of ads and slop and scams, pure manipulation and greed, all the pathologies of capitalism amplified and beamed into our brains that it is. Like, it really could have been a tool for human flourishing, but instead it's just another tool for extraction and oppression of most of humanity.

[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 7 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, I feel like we can't even imagine how great it could still become in a future global communist society. We might not live to see it, but hopefully a future generation.

[–] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Plenty of humans are also making easily consumed content gruel chasing the algorithm.

Very true, the millions of shallow algorithmic listicle blogs regurgitating top google results, marketing nonsense, and other listicles, predated the availability of genAI. GenAI has just massively accelerated the internet down this path.

[–] EatPotatoes@hexbear.net 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

GenAI is a listical eight ball

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Magic8Ball@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago

My sources say no

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

people sink thousands hours into youtube instead of learning ball/guitar, cause that's where perceived image of success (tm) inhabits currently. it's curious how it's self-reinforcing prophecy, but oh well.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That's so depressing lol

Just imagining a kid out there with an incredible ear, scrolling through hours of algo optimization content because they want to be just like mr beast

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 3 points 12 hours ago

i'm sure parents had same idea about kids noodling on guitar during nirvana craze (for earlier live reaction video see back to the future).

nah but i think it's two different lanes (ball-guitar-professional gamer) and (tv presenter-model-youtuber), one is skill related the other famousness related, although they are obviously intertvined in all sorts of ways. while one can be annoyed at the first, the second is always whatever.

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 17 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Average youtube thumbnail includes something like soypoint-1

Edit: emnerson made a video on this just 2 weeks ago

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 65 points 1 day ago

Oops, turns out all value is created through labor. marx-joker

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 21 points 21 hours ago

Declining rate of profit has the craziest implications.

[–] crosswind@hexbear.net 20 points 21 hours ago

Building data centers to wreck the climate was taking too long, so they innovated a new, faster climate change.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 29 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Crud and we were so close to AGI. Missed the moon by a hairsbreadth, we did.

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Saw today that Ray Kurzweil's written another book - The Singularity is Nearer.

Had a very quick flick through, and it's essentially just added ChatGPT stuff in and moved the timeline out another twenty years. The blurb says "has made so many correct predictions", though is curiously silent on his main prediction of "God comes online, 2020".

He still thinks Drexlerian Hard Nanotech is possible and grey goo is actually a threat. Which it isn't, insofar as we better understand the physics involved. It was great for scifi authors though, which he basically is. He refers to stuff on the topic from 2000, which was dated even then!

The closest we're ever likely to get is using reprogrammed biological cells, the actually existing "tiny things that do incredible things" - but like the usual STEM type if it isn't shiny silver, lit by LEDs, and capable of omnipotent restructuring of matter and energy then it's not really interesting. Probably for the best! Musk's Monkey Murder Machine was just trying to stick computer chips in brains, god knows the outcome if he started trying to play with gene editing.

[–] durduramayacaklar@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] button_masher@lemmy.ml 5 points 19 hours ago

Perplexity is protecting itself.

[–] rubber_chicken@hexbear.net 29 points 23 hours ago

Fried memes were prophecy.

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 19 points 22 hours ago

I'm excited to watch the bubble burst on AI, specifically when the prices start rising. The amount of complaining from the worst people on earth will be delicious.

[–] TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] addie@feddit.uk 4 points 18 hours ago

More "the Human Centipede".

[–] LadyCajAsca@hexbear.net 22 points 23 hours ago

consequence of capitalism in the internet

[–] mayakovsky@hexbear.net 20 points 23 hours ago

Everything on the mainstream internet will be pressreleaseslop and stockimageslop with some conspiracyslop mixed in for flavor

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Could there be anything better than the death of the Internet?

I think we will see a return to the analog. Pagers and typewriters. The comeback of intentionality.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 25 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Growing up as a kid in a small Midwest town, the internet was the only reprieve I had from an environment where I was surrounded by creationists, Iraq war lovers, and conservative social Darwinists. It was also the only real resource I had to learn programming and game development. So yeah, I'd say plenty of things are better than the death of the internet.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 4 points 17 hours ago

It will certainly do wonders to cut off American soft power

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Perplexity is more like a search engine. They don't provide botting services afaik.

[–] SeizeTheBeans@hexbear.net 5 points 19 hours ago

No, they do. Used to be that even with the free version you could choose which LLM model you wanted to converse or work with. Now that's only if you pay a subscription, and it would be a cold day in hell before I did that.

[–] ufcwthrowaway@hexbear.net 12 points 22 hours ago

Prediction:

This will lead to an industry of boutique "human only" websites advertised in meat space, along with a semi organic, semi astroturfed "digital temperance" movement

[–] shallot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

Won’t somebody think of the slop generators :(((

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 9 points 22 hours ago

called it, Digital Kessler syndrome

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 7 points 21 hours ago

That really that much different to humans? I mean I know it is but when you think about it you barely find people who don't speak in memes or goofy shit anymore. So many reactionary ideas spread like wild fire. Racism sexism etc is fucking rampant and its what drives a lot of the algorithm. Shit the AI will fit right in i-cant

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 7 points 22 hours ago

And people will still consume it