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[–] mos@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Truly mind blowing they didn’t address the weight issues. The first one was incredible to use for about 3 minutes, then you realize you have a whole ass brick on your face. It needs a smaller form factor. The only way it will find some general use age is to take out all the extras like the front facing “eyes” screen, make it weigh less, make it cost half as much, and make some controllers for it so you don’t have to do the stupid finger gestures.

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s probably safe to assume that Apple doesn’t even like this product and is just selling it to fund the R&D for whatever it is that they actually want to make. Like you said, it’s a brick on your face, not exactly Apple’s way of doing things.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Solution in search of a problem.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

I mean, there is a market for high-end VR goggles. There's that Finnish place that sells mostly to the commercial/military flight-sim market, what's-it-called.

kagis

Varjo.

https://www.knoxlabs.com/collections/varjo

It looks like that runs into the tens of thousands, depending upon model.

But I'm deeply skeptical that Apple can make a mass-market product at that price point.

And VR goggles still aren't to the point where they're really a reasonable drop-in replacement for a conventional display for general use.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Can the new one at least run games this time around? If there's no SteamVR support, it's useless.

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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 5 points 2 days ago

Reports have circulated that Apple has deprioritized Vision Pro development internally and that the company is trying to shift to something more along the lines of Meta's less-obtrusive augmented reality glasses

Smaller and cheaper is definitely the way to go if they can pull it off while still retaining the existing functionality.

[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely no one gave a flip about the first one. Why in the world would they build a second one?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/12/08/analysis-apple-vision-pro-sells-well-but-needs-more-content-faster

The Apple Vision Pro is often referred to as a "flop" in media reports, but by the end of 2024, it will have sold around 500,000 units.

That's a lot less than some others, and probably not where Apple would like it to be, but there are some people who bought it.

https://www.tomshardware.com/virtual-reality/valves-next-gen-deckard-vr-headset-reportedly-enters-mass-production-company-allegedly-plans-to-ship-up-to-600k-units-annually-upcoming-steam-frame-could-launch-before-the-end-of-the-year

Upload VR reports that the Steam Deck has sold around 5 million units so far, while Meta's popular Quest 2 VR headset shipped 20 million units.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Having a cult following helps.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 3 points 2 days ago

In what universe is anyone going to wear that contraption?

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I want a productivity focused device. I want it to run osx. Let me have 5 ide windows and 3 browser windows floating around me, that I can interact with with eye tracking and voice.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

The problem is that the angular resolution on any existing set of VR goggles is considerably worse than on existing conventional displays. And that's just to start with


for VR goggles, then you have to "consume" some of that to effectively get clear projections into 3D space of stuff.

Someone a while back posted this article, which was talking specifically about the issues with using the Apple Vision Pro as a monitor replacement. I think that it was a good look into the issues:

https://kguttag.com/2023/08/05/apple-vision-pro-part-5a-why-monitor-replacement-is-ridiculous/

If I could get a "monitor replacement" set of VR goggles, something that I could use for as long as I do a monitor with the clarity and angular resolution of a monitor, then I'd do so. But they just aren't there in 2025, and I doubt that they're getting there soon. They're good enough for playing some 3D games for limited periods of time, but that's kind of a limited use case for me.

They’re going to keep pushing even if you don’t buy and hate on it.