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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 32 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Hell, even great Britain did more than the US historically. Justifying neither. Just showing how naive and likely young they are. Russia had impressive numbers up in Siberia. We may never fully understand China's score. Good states are the exception, not the rule.

But this is some kind of edgelord "west bad" ignorance. And I say this as a first nations descendant who's family suffered o. the trail of tears. The sins of the US are copious but nothing special among their peers.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's one thing to say that the US flag represents any number of unspeakable horrors - there are any number of unspeakable horrors performed under it, and, for that matter, by the explicit fiat of those associated with it. That's pretty indisputable, and if someone wishes to characterize the flag as its representation, that's absolutely within the realm of reasonable arguments.

It's another thing entirely to earnestly argue that the fucking Nazis weren't as bad as the US, and that the US is unrivaled in its atrocities. The US is far from the best state of the modern era - the US is also far from the worst, though that, admittedly, is a bit of damnation by faint praise.

But the Great Satan has to be the biggest evil in the world, or else they might have to think about their opinions for a moment.

Critical support for Comrade Hitler, one supposes.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

russian propaganda, right wing propaganda as rotten these tankie brains a bit

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

We may never fully understand China's score.

Don't worry about that. Three kingdom war is just a novel, there is no war in Ba Sing Se.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Don’t forget the Roman Empire who brutalized peoples all over Northern Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

US has historically been the least bad option outside of all the large hegemonic countries.

Russian's authoritarianism and genocidal imperialism survived three economic system over ~100 years.

China had killed untold millions during the early years of CCP rule and they continue to engage in genocidal imperialism.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Chinas at 100million of their own citizens in just the last 100 years.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

exterminating your own countrymen to show your "strong", they shouldve thought of that before they reeling in thier population crisis right now. one child policy is part of that extermination/genocide.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

First off, cryptagion, lemme say: No.

Religion has caused more death, grief, pain, destruction, and repression than any other cause in history, so the best symbol would be a combination of every religion's predominant symbol (cross, star of david, moon and star, a dharmachakra, etc).

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Late reply, but I just wanna say: Americans helped out a lot during my home country's defence against japanese imperialism, and in 1945, the US swiftly put an end to the atrocities throughout Asia (which had been happening for a decade, or probably longer), committed by the imperialist japanese army, by using the US's new weapon (I do not condone the civillian deaths involved btw, but there were no alternatives). Sure, Americans have their own dark history, but the USA is nowhere near as bad as the literal nazis. Americans helped save my homeland from total destruction. (And yes, USSR also kinda helped, so I guess kudos for that, but then... later on they kinda were trying to force China into the USSR, so... that ain't cool...)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

most dem voters arnt even Liberal in the sense of thier beliefs anyways, it gears towards republican, or center right. even in our city which is deep blue in the west, we have a ton of "transplants" from other states that bring that have pretty conservative views on the down low.

tankies think too much like conservatives do, thier "other" enemy is one or the other in a unified fashion.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

They banned me for that too. I guess my intellect was too stunning for them to handle.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Wear that as a badge of honor.

I wonder how many times I have been banned for just talking over there. Where is Lemmy Silver 🥈 ?!!

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean, it's wild because I agree with the premise. In modern times the US has caused chaos throughout the world. To say it has done the most in history is some strong recency bias. Then they lambasted me for bringing up "ancient history" like WW2 while they brought up the colonial period...

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah they want obedience and hatred, not rational thought or progress.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't hold a candle to the cross. That is the symbol under which the worst atrocities have been committed.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 3 points 4 days ago

Ah, the dark side of American exceptionalism.

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 3 points 5 days ago

you post some underbaked memes op but this one is fire