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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is/should be a lot of room for compromise.

A mix of "reasonable" tariffs and quotas to start, to make Chinese EVs competitive without destroying domestic manufacturing is a good path. Canada needs investment. Whether foreign auto makers do it, following through on previous commitments, shutting out China can be a reward for them.

Without choosing to provide value cars to Canadians, Canada could offer agriculture for Chinese (solar) energy trade. Pemitting them to boost capacity even more.

Instead of begging the US to buy (and own through investment) our resources, Chinese development would help significantly as well.

Corrupt ideology programmed into Canadians is bad for Canada. We need new friends instead of abusers, and the only reform of an abuser possible comes when they beg for forgiveness when you flirt with new friends.

[–] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

We don't even need to be "friends" with China, we just need to recognize the situation we're in and work with them pragmatically. Rejecting China in the current economy is like rejecting gravity.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Ten years ago I'm not sure I'd have said this, but now: fuck it. We should just get into bed with China. They seem totally uninterested in wars at all unless you're Taiwan, which we're not. Trade matters. They seem stable. Sure there are some human rights issues but given all the human rights issues fucking everywhere right now, like. I dunno. I'm for it.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't even think China is interested in any wars over Taiwan. I'm fairly certain it will be a peaceful rejoining once the US crumbles, akin to East and West Germany during the fall of the Soviet Union.

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[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (22 children)

If Chinese manufactures can exceed Canadian standards, provide spare parts for a minimum of 10 years from the date of manufacture, provide a minimum of 10 years of software support/updates, AND allow all software to be audited for both safe function and security. Then sure. Bring on the cheap EVs.

(But not even our current domestically produced vehicles meet those requirements)

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