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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Some local plants might be edible and even delicious, but they are either way to costly to grow or harvest, or they are nigh impossible to preserve. Or they simply are edible, but not sustaining, like sucking nectar from stinging nettle blossoms.

Some are acquired tastes like e.g. turnip tops. You could probably harvest tons of them, but there is no real market for it.

Or take edible flowers, you basically can't preserve them, and all you can do is put them on a dish for decoration.

Pearl Onions are a borderline case, for example. Between harvest and sitting in the pickling juice they only have a few hours (3-6, IIRC), or they are a case for the compost heap.

[–] brianary@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Transportability is a huge consideration. Pawpaws can't be transported nationally, for example. The plants we eat have been bred for maximum marketability, which includes getting the produce from where it grows to where people need it.

[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Exactly. Instead of complaining people can just grow them themselves. It's not like commercial growers have a monopoly on growing food.

Otherwise this is a typical lemmy complaint. Someone who isn't me didn't do a thing I like. That makes someone else besides me bad. If there are things you want to exist in this world then you have to do things. This realization is real adulthood.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

I planted my garden this year and then had that realization, so I divorced my husband and lost my garden. I went back and grabbed all the veggies from it 3 months later: some small potatoes, some peppers, small onions, and I grabbed my baby strawberry plants that survived the summer without regular watering. My ex has admitted he let my garden die. Be the change you want to see in the world

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For Polish speakers theres this book by prof. Łuczaj: https://lukaszluczaj.pl/dzikie-rosliny-jadalne-polski-pelny-tekst/ - every plant that grows in our region and can be eaten. In some more edgy cases backed by his own experimentation on himself.

[–] musubibreakfast@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does he also document the fuckable plants? I'm asking for a friend

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 13 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Oh boy are you in for a surprise....

There's his "Sex in the great (grand?) forrest". Its about best plants to fuck on (or under). Mostly. As side notes it does point out some local plants in particularly interesting shapes, or some one might rub themself against... This guy is commited. And also an actual true professor on an actual university.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So... cool story

Ann Reardon from How to Cook That, took Coke, and tested it for HFCS, it of course indicated it was in there, then she took a Mexican Coke, and it also indicated, but it claims not to use it.

Apparently, the acid in the Coke breaks down the sucrose in the cane sugar, making the product very close to the HFCS variant. She followed up with a blind taste test (very limited size, just her family) and found they were very close in flavor.

It would appear that we do to some decent extent enjoy HFCS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajVWRx8vsjE

[–] wieson@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

She's either from Australia or Aotearoa. I don't expect their coca cola to be the same recipe as in the US.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

could be,

she was basing it on the ingredients list and she had the mexican coke shipped.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you seen the size of the average American?

Who is ignoring that we don't like HFCS? It's downright an addictive substance.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 18 hours ago

I think if you ask 100 Americans, they will overwhelmingly be down on HFCS.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone that's tried coke with cane sugar and doesn't say that it's better than regular cook.

Everybody I know that drinks Coke thinks that Mexican Coke is superior, but is hard to get in a lot more expensive.

There's a pretty significant campaign against it.

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Tbf, many are kinda disgusting to modern palettes. Lamb's quarter sucks compared to stuff like spinach, kale, or collards. Pokeweed needs extensive preparation to make it safe. Wood sorrel, horseherb, and prickly pear grows where I currently live, but I haven't tried them yet. My dog likes horseherb despite the little spines for some reason. My grandmother used to fry dandelions and plaintain which was pretty good.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For another example of a plant that just didn't make it into modern society at scale, there are skirrets. Carrots, parsnips, and skirrets were related umbellifer plants with edible, nutritious roots, cultivated over the centuries as food. Carrots and parsnips were responsive to breeding for root size, and could produce comparatively huge roots, but skirrets never really did. Once the potato was brought over from the new world, the skirret fell out of favor.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago

I always find it interesting when comparing cuisine between cultures of stuff that exists in different places but only eaten in one (or a few) of them. Like ok, I get that if you're not used to much seafood in general you maybe will eat some grilled salmon but you're not gonna be eating the guts out of crabs or lobsters or whatever. But then there's something like burdock root, which grows in the US, doesn't have a strong taste, and is just like various other root vegetables we do eat (although not as sweet as something like a carrot). But the US doesn't eat it while east Asia does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctium#Food_and_drink

[–] phoenixpinkmyn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wood sorrel is an interesting case. In the US, we don't commonly eat our native wood sorrel, i.e. the thing that looks like clover. But we do eat starfruit. Starfruit is also a type of wood sorrel, just one that has a much larger, sweeter fruit, that's been selectively bred for agriculture. But if you look at the fruits of our native plant, they do look like tiny starfruit! link

They're still tasty. They're very tart, but with no sweetness. They could be good to top a salad. But you'd have to pick hundreds of them to get as much food as you get from one starfruit, and it wouldn't be as tasty as a fruit. Like eating a lemon instead of an orange.

That said, I still love them! The leaves and stems also have a good taste. They're everywhere and have a lovely burst of flavor. Just be careful if you have kidney stones or kidney disease, any kind of wood sorrel - including starfruit - has oxalic acid which can be tough on kidneys.

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[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you get dandelions to not taste like poison?

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago

Oh, the flowers. The leaves are edible and even taste good aside from the bitterness

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago

Oh! I will get to taste appalachian cuisine (*_*) Thank you !

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I live in a subtropical climate and it seems like most typical garden plants are not really good for our weather, it's too hot for some and too wet for many who like hot.

Our winners are:

Trees- starfruit, longan, mango, papaya all do well.

Garden -

summer, wet season - Okra mostly. Hong Tsoi, Eggplant (little ones) Watermelon (little ones) sweet potato (Stokes Purple), tomatoes, basil.

winter, dry season- Collards, peppers, broccoli (Green Magic) cauliflower, arugula, fennel, lettuce, radishes. Cilantro, or dill. A lot of the typical northern summer plants can be started in December or January to grow in the "spring" that runs from January to April ish.

In between - peppers, fennel, mustard greens, eggplant, pumpkin type squash (but bugs always eat it) tomatoes.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 120 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (25 children)

This is dumb. Most plants resist cultivation. Bragging about being able to afford them does not make you Superior.

Also yields are important

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Every September, I make a year's supply of beautyberry jelly.

I do something that I don't recommend people do: I can it. I'm like 5 years in, and I haven't had a problem yet. There's a series of pages in my Ball canning recipe book that the beautyberry jelly recipe I use conforms pretty close to, but it isn't USDA approved or otherwise published by some authority as safe for canning, I'm going to recommend you avoid this.

Beautyberries, if you're not familiar with them, are a bush/shrub native to the American southeast. The plant looks like a bunch of stems with leaves that grow along them, along with clusters of tiny white flowers in the spring at the base of each pair of leaves, that turn into vivid purple berries in the fall. The leaves can be used as a mosquito repellent if rubbed on clothing, and the berries are edible...although they're bitter and astringent. Boiling them in water to make an extract and making jelly from that extract results in a bright red jelly that tastes like strawberry and tea.

It's something of a pain to harvest, so it pretty much isn't commercially done.

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