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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 160 points 3 weeks ago (68 children)

Crash can't come soon enough

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[–] madsen@lemmy.world 118 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

It's fucking insane how much is invested (both money and natural resources) in the emperor's new clothes. Let's scorch the planet because every idiot out there buys into the marketing and hype. We are utterly and truly doomed because of ourselves.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 41 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Future generations will look back on the pre apocalypse population and call us sleep walkers. I know, as I'm one of them. Life is difficult enough already without jeopardising my freedom as the only way to change our course is violence at this point.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

the only way to change our course is violence at this point.

Sadly, yes.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There's still time for a general strike. The country would be brought to its knees if suddenly deprived of profit and labor. That tactic was extremely effective in Chile in 2019, and had they not fallen for the trick of liberal reform, they would've had a successful revolution on their hands with virtually no bloodshed.

If you aren't in a union (or even if you are, it's worth dual-carding), please consider joining the IWW to unionize your workplace (bonus: you'll get higher wages, better benefits, and more time off if you succeed!) to strengthen a general strike if we manage to enact one.

And for our international friends, you should join one as well, as fascism is gaining momentum globally. If your country isn't listed below, just contact the IWW directly in the link above.

  • 🇦🇷 Argentina: FORA
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[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

All of these problems are caused by a remarkably small network of people. I'm not even necessarily talking about the CEOs. It's the boards of directors. This is also the pool from which CEOs are drawn one and the pool to which CEOs return after their golden parachute. They function as a living repository of evil. A warehouse of criminals and nepo-babies. (Ex: Airbnb guy joined DOGE and is on teslas board. So first he destroys the housing market for a generation, and then destroys the government, and he is the person who directs Tesla.)

Like, the network is so small it could fit in one big room.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Future generations will look back on the pre apocalypse population

If it makes you feel any better, our '01, '08, '14, and '20 recessions all put hard downward pressure on carbon emissions.

If Trump manages to throw us into the first full blown Depression in a century, he may do more to curb US emissions than any president in history.

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[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

AI and the investment around it are literally the only thing holding up America’s economy right now. If you take the artificial growth and the vast amounts of investment that are being pumped in AI development data centers, the US economy has barely grown half percentage point.

No surprise that they are going to power this beast at all costs until it falls apart along with the US economy.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 78 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

And capitalism!

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 58 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hooray for cancer, asthma and bronchitis! Make America Healthy Again. Lung health is like Karate -- black is the best!

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 13 points 3 weeks ago

What doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger! Or chronically ill, but in a cool way, really.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 54 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Meanwhile China is going all in on renewables.

Here is a fact: an authoritarian non-democracy is doing a lot for securing the future of humanity, while the "leader of the free world" are vandalizing the climate and accelerating apocalyptic climate catastrophe.

In 2025, China is a net positive for the future of humanity, while the USA is a net negative.

If that makes you uncomfortable about what our political and economic systems in the West that brought us here, well, you know the meme: "facts don't care about your feelings".

If you, like me, care about the future of democracy, we have to do a LOT of digging.

[–] neighbourbehaviour@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Our current system is going about how Marx predicted it would. The course correction that occurred after the Great Depression has been now completely reversed and we're back staring at its approaching collapse. I don't think we can escape that long term, and we'll lose democracy in the process, unless we start moving away from capitalism. We gotta attack private firm ownership. Otherwise we'll keep getting people accumulate enough capital to buy the rest of the system and steamroll the rest of us for profit.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Meanwhile China is going all in on renewables.

BUT

AT

WHAT

COST

If that makes you uncomfortable about what our political and economic systems in the West that brought us here, well, you know the meme: “facts don’t care about your feelings”.

It might be cold comfort, but none of these business models have the liquidity behind them to build out coal power at the levels they claim they'll need.

Nevermind that solar/wind would be cheaper. Or that the raw manpower to yield coal in quantity no longer exists. So much of these proposals are - at their heart - the same vaporware that promised waves of new nuclear construction and hydro-power and geothermal.

Bottom line is that GenAI's primary revenue comes from dumb VC and bad debt. They can't build, much less operate, any of this shit.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We are a nation of man/woman children. Petulant little kids who don't want to grow up and be responsible for anything.

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[–] sgtgig@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

We were too addicted to AI slop to save ourselves.

Actually no, no one was addicted to AI slop, it was just shoved into every product so that huge companies could make a profit and everyone hates it.

But wait! The huge companies are losing tons money on this.

Why did we destroy the planet again????

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 17 points 3 weeks ago

The capitalist class loves the idea and rewards companies with investment money. They think it could be the ultimate tool to snuff out any power the working class still has; making many employees optional, total surveillance of the population, etc. I think it will be a long time until it can do many jobs, but the surveillance tech seems to be coming along pretty well (with "AI" cameras recording license plates and biometric identifiers being put up everywhere).

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Wish my coworkers would get the memo. Constantly trying to shove AI videos in my face like "haha look at MLK Jr and Tupac as pro wrestling announcers haha"

As an artist I am deeply repulsed by AI. But other people around me? They love it for some reason.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 3 weeks ago

its the techbros that are obsessed with AI slop.

[–] DegenerationIP@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

And I thought AI killing us would use cool robots and Shit. Well.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So close, AI will kill us with coal robots and Shit-Wells

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Fuck AI and these energy guzzling data centers. For decades we were told to conserve power and such and now all of those savings are being sucked up, and more, by these centers.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember, everytime us plebs are told to sacrifice for the environment it’s so the corpos and parasites can off load moral responsibility onto us.

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[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Datacenter != AI

If you are using the internet for anything with cloud storage, you are contributing to datacenter growth. And that includes nearly everyone using social media.

[–] kcuf@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

Sure but energy use per datacenters was on a downward trend before ai, then it went the other way hard

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Datacenter != AI

Except the demand for new data centers is driven entirely by the capacity constraints of the current AI models.

If you are using the internet for anything with cloud storage, you are contributing to datacenter growth.

"Why are you mad at my five ton diseal SUV when you just adopted a pet chihuahua? They both emit carbon!"

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[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Yes but data center growth prior to AI was manageable. There isn't a grid on the planet (except maybe china?) which can support the growth of AI data centers.

These people have to plan energy needs on a 10-20 year life cycle, not 2. It's the 2 that's the problem.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago
[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Earth was past 7 of 9 planetary boundaries to support human life.... before AI happened. That is again, boundaries to support HUMAN LIFE.

Article from when it was 6/9:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/humans-have-crossed-6-of-9-planetary-boundaries/

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Looking forward the 2026 ESG reports of large companies that are so happy to embrace AI :)

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The coal and O&G industries have been pushing themselves as suppliers to power AI, so don't blame AI without blaming the coal and O&G industries.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)
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[–] you_are_it@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hey, regime 🖕

(Just expressing what is left to express here)

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