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Yet another streamer nothingburger is spread far and wide to distract audiences from more pressing issues, such as white genocide in South Africa. Right now, as Hasan is being accused of shocking his dog, real white people are being killed in impunity, and no one has the courage to break the silence that lets the South African government avoid responsibility for the most brutal acts of mass murder on the African continent since 1994.

Thousands of actual exploding pagers

One non-existent shocky collar

For folks that visit this site, I think they just need to be educated. This is basically a perfect teachable moment for recognizing and understanding propaganda and how it works, even on oneself, and how to push back on it. It is relatively low-stakes and the content is petty, but that actually makes it easier to understand and explain. Anyone on hexbear falling for this is going to have a hard time adapting appropriately to irl organizing and messaging, as there will inevitably be people flinging shit at your org or neighboring orgs and you will need to respond strategically, not with knee-jerk acceptance of narratives.

Liberals rely heavily on spreading salacious rumors and accusations about left orgs to tarnish them, even when their true opposition is not the rumors, but that they are made uncomfortable due to, for example, having to recognize their own complicity in genocide. They will amplify bad faith narratives ir even true narratives that are exceptions rather than characteristic of the organization. For example, I know local liberal union leaders that badmouth PSL for "sexual misconduct", making a confused reference to to the non-strategic handling of local drama in Philadelphia. Those same union leaders openly tolerated and promoted an actual sexpest that worked under them and who had been fired from two other unions for inappropriate relationships with peolle he supervised.

They do not care about the things they claim to care about. It is just about demonization of who they perceive as their enemies. Recognizing when this is happening is actually a very important part of successfully running an org. It even happens internally, as some members will think it is right to spread rumors and attack people in an unprincipled way. This tendency must be educated out and suppressed if necessary.

yup, even charlie/moistcritikal fell for it. not a single fold on these people's brains to be found

Tbf this was a very organised smear campaign. Probably the strongest I've seen from Israel in a while.

I got sent the h3h3 subreddit in a dm as proof for restoring a comment I removed here lmao. All the evidence I need

The comment will stay removed

Many comrades here are outraged at the plainness of this narrative, why? The Anglosphere raises people who look at a photo of a man very safely standing in front of a tank, or a video of PLA soldiers slowly marching behind fleeing "protestors" without a hint of aggression, or a picture of bikes lying on the ground and shout "MASSACRE" without a single neuron firing inside their skull. They've been bastions of simplicity for decades.

Anyway unlimited genocide on the first world

1000% comrade, I wasted like 3 hours in the comments of his videos yesterday raging against the lynch mob of demonic nazi incels who clearly don't even give a shit about Kaya

Most of those little freaks didn't even know her gender let alone her name and I know that if she died and Hasan was crying about it these fucking monsters would turn on a dime and start celebrating and laughing about the "dead Hamas dog" or some such evil shit

Oh did I say start laughing? Sorry but I forgot they already turned this whole thing into a fucking meme and were already all making the same stale tire jokes about how "SHOCKED" they all are

Like I try not to be parasocial with youtubers and Hasan isn't even my favorite guy there but he CLEARLY loves Kaya and treats her better than most dog people do and this weaponized racist false accusation against an innocent dude and his dog really piss me off

I could go on but I'm gonna try to chill out and enjoy the free lunch I'm eating right now from the place I delivered beans to for work

KayaGate is likely consent manufacturing done by hasbara agents. There is an attempt going on by libs and fash to rehabilitate israhell‘s image.

Beware of both vectors.

CW: Abuse of children, drug abuse

Destiny is going to go to prison for possessing CSAM/Unconsensual recordings (or possibly for criticisng charlie kirk 😐). Meanwhile, H3H3 got exposed for having "pedophile reddit account" and has thrown his reputation in the garbage over the last two years running a harassment podcast while also abusing stimulants and ignoring his kids/ sleeping in a different room from his wife.

It's crazy thats there's a large, dedicated community that's sole focus is slandering and ruining Hasan's career. I think the even crazier part is that this harassment community took THIS long for any of their attacks to gain motion. For someone who is live for 30% of the week and is constantly being hate watched, it is honestly impressive how long it took for Hasan to slip up and have a clip they can use

I blame crackers for caring more about dogs than people.

The fact that a horde was so quick to jump and make their money on the bleeding edge of fact or fiction says a lot about character.

Edit: to clarify I mean the other streamers, here, not so much the audience

I have a friend who trains dogs who is fully on Hasans side for this. People that don't understand dogs past "doggo" are getting mad. The dog was okay, Hasan was essentially training what's called a "place" command, for people who don't want to crate their dogs. You have to reinforce before they finish the behavior(getting off the bed). She wrote me volumes about this.

Everything I know about streamers I have learned without my consent.

It was kind of a surprise to see a bout of the old timey stereotype of the dog hating Muslim get that kind of traction, a real throw back to 2002.

They're shocking and then eating the dogs, folks They call it the Antifa thanksgiving

Its also extremely hypocritical. Anyone who complains about a dog getting shocked while paying for baby boy chicks to be put in blenders is a hypocrite.

Man, I know we’re here to talk about how fucking dumb the whole situation is, but there’s something in particular about this that is so fucking stupid outside of the psy-op part:

If Hasan does have a “vibrate only” collar, it’s highly likely that his dog FUCKING HATES IT. Many dogs find vibrating collars to be more aversive than low-to-mid-level shock, because it’s scary and uncomfortable as shit.

Shit, dawg, I’m gonna take this opportunity to rant about some shit.

Seriously, find a collar that does both vibration and shock, strap it to your neck, and have a friend/partner/stranger/whoever shock you without warning at a setting that would be considered a reasonable “working level” for a pet dog (in between a 1-Low and 2-Med on a garmin/tritronics models, somewhere between 5-15 for e-collar tech.). Great. Feel that? It ain’t much, is it? Kinda almost feels nice, right? Cool. Now, have that same person hit you with the vibrate function without warning. FUCKIN SCARY AND UNCOMFY RIGHT??

Here’s the thing, folks: shock collars aren’t bad. In fact, if you are against the euthanasia of “problem” dogs, you should probably be PRO shock collar. Anyone who says otherwise has likely never spent any time with a truly powerful, aggro, anxious, dominant dog. And all you R+ folks out there, let me know how your fucking “positive only” methods work on a bigass mal or dutchie who wants to fucking hurt you.

If you’re anti-collar and are a totally pro-animal liberation, anti animal-husbandry totally vegan person who believes that we shouldn’t even have pets, then you get a pass, because your logic is consistent with those views. Anyone else can fuck right off if you’re hating on e-collars.

More lefties need to get into the k9 protection world, not for sport, but out of necessity. Some shit will likely come to pass in the future, and dogs are going to be a not insignificant component. You wanna know who currently has the monopoly on fucking hard ass dogs who can do WAY more than just bite? It ain’t lefties, thats for sure. The stuff out in the public domain about the U.S. military use of dogs for surveillance/recon/protection/violence etc is absolutely nutty. And that’s just the stuff in the public domain.

Aight sorry rant over

Im ao glad Im not aware of anyone I watch talking about this but now that mostcritical has talked about this (possiably as revenge for not being worshipped by Hasan for finally talking about Palestine?) Im nervous someone is going to take the free money for jumping into this.

I agree that any public figure should just be blacklisted.

Folks here -- you should really do some self crit if you were buying this. I don't want to say we should do purges of users who believed the accusations, but I think if you don't reflect on this a bit you're probably going to get yourself into trouble.

[nodding furiously] yes brother, wholly agreed

So far I haven't seen much of this on my feed, but even just hearing about this is making me lose my faith in humanity... again.

Maybe 99% of the internet is just straight up Israeli-run, or otherwise just run by the worst people imaginable. Worst yet are the chuds who get special treatment but still cry about how persecuted they are.

Honestly I'm not that tuned in to this thing and am barely aware of who Hasan is, but this whole thing reeks of emotionally manipulative manufactured outrage, the losers who spread this know many people will have an emotional reaction to a dog being abused* (even if it really happen, that doesn't matter to them because nooo the doggo 🥺). They definitely care more about that dog than they do about dead Palestinians.

*I find this extremely hypocritical, because most of these people who are supposedly against animal abuse are definitely not vegan and therefore support animal abuse on an industrial level.

Can't wait for all this to blow over, Nazis are so fucking annoying.

I've watched more Hasan in the past few days than I have in the past 10 years.

I didn't look into it that much (I don't really care that much for streamers) but once I've heard the names livestreamfail(I really wish I could erase my mind of that word and anything affiliated with it), that tweaked out looking zionist (Ethan Klein?) and that disgusting sexual predator destiny, I knew this was just another smear campaign from his loser fans + Hasbara). I guess it's not too surprising that this is getting loud as western whites care more about dogs more than actual humans.