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[–] caboose2006@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I didn't realise Muslims were responding to shit like this with "we're not vampires with garlic idiot." But I like it.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (5 children)

As an exmuslim, I'm disappointed in this comment section.

islam is NOT your friend. Simping for it just shows that you're either ignorant or you're hypocrite with not prinicples. islam, as an ideology is so unbelievably vile that it's a very strong contender for being the worst ideology in history. Pedophilia, sex slavery, rape, misogyny, wife beatings, normal slavery, genocide, terrorism, homophobia, violent colonialism, apartheid governance, censorship, intentional discrimination and hatred, and barbaric capital punishment are all explicitly allowed and encouraged in the islamic scriptures.

This is not just me making things up, I can literally show you either verses from the quran, sahih hadiths, or both explicitly allow and encourage every single one of these. I'm against bigotry and bigots, however, I am also against those who cover for them. In this case, islam is just as bigoted, if not more bigoted, than the person in the post, and the people covering for islam aren't any better. I will always stand tall and proud on the side of people who exercise their right to free speech to criticize islam, and expose the religion for what it is, despite the dangers of doing so.

[–] farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pedophilia, sex slavery, rape, misogyny, wife beatings, normal slavery, genocide, terrorism, homophobia, violent colonialism, apartheid governance, censorship, intentional discrimination and hatred, and barbaric capital punishment are all explicitly allowed and encouraged in the islamic scriptures.

so the same as every other abrahamic religion?

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Sounds like Christianity to me! Judging by the bible that I read 4 times. Literally my second most read book.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I find it very frustrating how islam, and only islam, gets excused for all the shit it has. There will always be someone rushing in to defend it with type of pointless nonsense. islam is bad on its own merits, you don't need to defend on meaningless generalizations. Just because other religions have their own shitty verses that does NOT excuse, justify, or negate what's in islam. People can and should criticize it on its own for what it is.

[–] farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

there is nothing in the quran that is any more problematic than things mentioned in the bible ane torah. your racism is showing

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

I'm literally Arab and ex muslims, calling me a racist for criticizing islam doesn't make me racist, it makes a complete idiot.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I agree with you and would expand that to cover most major religions, particularly the abrahamic ones.

I also think bigotry is evil because it's blind hatred of anyone belonging to a group. There are decent enough people that are Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Admittedly most don't closely follow their religion (particularly the fucked up parts) -- but they still identify as such.

There's a difference between attacking a belief system and attacking huge, diverse groups of people. Somehow I don't think Ultra Nuclear's intent was the former.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

The big issue that I have is that muslims and Western leftists ALWAYS try to conflate criticism of islam with bigotry against muslims no matter how wrong that is. It doesn't matter to them how valid, well thought, and factual criticism is, the label of bigotry is more often than not used as tool to censor criticism of islam rather than call out genuine bigotry. I already have people replying to me doing exactly this.

I also find it annoying just how far leftist in the West are willing to deepthroat the boot of islam, even it explicitly against them and everything they stand for. They can't resist but defend it for whatever reason, and if they don't defend it, then try to downplay it by trying to bring in other religions into the conversation. You're not allowed to criticize islam on it own by its own merits, you will ALWAYS get people that try to whatabout with Christainity and Judaism, as if that changes anything about islam. Other religions have their shitty elements and those should be discussed under posts about them, but when we have posts about islam, we need to criticize it, by itself, for what it is.

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Its always jarring to see bigots disgrace just the Quran and Islam.

I'd argue fundamentalist Christians and Christian Zionists follow a nearly identical ideology and commit nearly identical atrocities as any radical Islamic Jihadist.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I’d argue fundamentalist Christians and Christian Zionists follow a nearly identical ideology

Literally identical bibliography up to a point. The Bible is a sacred text within Islam as well (although not in any condition an American evangelical could stomach reading, on account of it not being in English).

It's the interpretation that drives a wedge between them. Muslims recognize Jesus as a prophet, but reject the Nicean Creed (just like Jews).

commit nearly identical atrocities

The idea that religion causes atrocities requires a particular blindness to cataclysmic violence during secular eras. It's not religion that's getting Dems and Repubs alike to sponsor the Israeli genocide of Palestine, for instance. This is entirely rooted in the geopolitics of the oil trade through the Suez Canal.

Fear, bigotry, misinformation, and the mass hysteria of modern warfare are fully decoupled from secular traditions. Atheists like Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens have been as zealous in their advocacy of this barbarism as dogmatic Catholics and Muslims, like Pope Francis and Salman al-Dayah have been advocates for peace.

The idea that you can eliminate war through apostasy went out the window 60 years ago, during the height of the Soviet Era. War has an entirely materialist causation.

[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

I've always said both Christianity and Islam are my enemy. Both science denying, sexist, power hungry institutions with a penchant for fucking kids. The only difference, in the West, is that Christianity was made to bend the knee a long time ago. I think Islam still needs that lesson.

Regardless, fuck them both. Sky daddy worshipping death cults.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

The only difference, in the West, is that Christianity was made to bend the knee a long time ago

My dude, are you seeing what's happening in the US? What types of people are most passionately supporting Israel?

Shit, are you seeing the rampant rise of the far right accross Europe and Australia and some of their biggest backers?

That shit ain't happening because of Muslims. The Christian Jihadists are back and are making serious gains.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tbf the problem was always race rather than religion.

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What's amazing is that people have time to mind other people's business.

[–] F_State@midwest.social 85 points 3 days ago (45 children)

Burning a Quran because you hate Muslims is bigoted but burning a Quran (or any holy text) because the priestly class is how the ruling class maintains control over the working class in almost every society and religion is tool of oppression is a chad move.

The bacon thing is a dead giveaway that this is bigotry.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

Lol the best part is that she forces them to learn something.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 78 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I don’t know who this woman is but I love her. Calmly disassembling this douchnozzle’s attempt at desecration.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I’m reminded of a case here in the UK a few years back where bigots left something like 200 bacon sandwiches on the doorstep of a mosque. The next day the mosque released a statement to the press thanking the unknown people for their kind donation and that the local non-Muslim homeless population had very much appreciated the sandwiches that the people at the mosque had distributed to them.

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[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 88 points 3 days ago (34 children)

Wait, is it true that you have to burn a Quran if you're going to dispose of it? I'd like to know the reasoning behind that, I bet it's interesting. Or is she just trolling the troll?

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 148 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The US flag code requires burning. Cremation is a thing. Burning is a respectful way to dispose of things in a lot of cultures.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Burial is also considered acceptable, AFAIK

Flag is a pretty good comparison. Burning is the recommended disposal method, but people want to ban it and/or get very upset when it's burned

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