pacman -Syu
this post was submitted on 02 Oct 2025
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sudo zypper ref && sudo zypper dup
Fellow OpenSUSE enjoyer right there
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takes 1 minute on an 8 year old machine. foss gang cant meme.
Ain't nobody got time for apt-get. apt all the way.
Yeah it's crazy to me that people default to it. For scripts, sure, but apt is so much prettier.
People are creatures of habit and apt didn't always exist
I use apt in scripts and docker files. I don't even know what apt-get is supposed to do better there?
It has a stable API but realistically I can't see them changing apt so much it matters.
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The poster would be more convincing if you hadn't inverted apt-get update and apt-get upgrade...
It accurately got them backwards, the same way I always do. :)
I mean, it's definitely faster this way around
Maybe OP knew all along that they wanted to use the previous package list to upgrade and fetch the new one after! Maybe weโre all actually inverting itโฆ
(Iโm just being silly, I recognize that an old package list would probably cause issues with installing or upgrading packages.)
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Be me -
Gets the Ok from IT to switch to a Linux Distro for my work desktop.
Gets the Ok from my direct manager.
Gets the Ok from our contracts manager who used to be in my direct managers position before.
Direct manager reaches out to lead developer, who happens to be a windows fanboy, for the web app we use to ensure โcompatibilityโ, gets told to be careful of what I do and our cybersecurity insurance wonโt cover it.
Be me, looking around at all the minuscule pieces of hardware connected to the internet likely running some form of Linux or Unix.
It's a fucking web app. Make sure it works for a browser. You suck as a web developer if your shit web app needs to work on a specific OS.
And those are fighting words because I build web apps.
I've started noticing websites just to refuse to work on Linux:
- Xfinity
- Microsoft
- United Airlines
- American Airlines
It's not like some weird script error either. It's straight up a 403 Forbidden on certain routes. Works perfectly fine if I switch to my Windows laptop. It's like it took one look at my user agent string and decided I was a bot.
Not saying you're wrong, but if you're running a VPN it could be that as well. More and more sites are demanding CAPTCHA tests and verification holds or just returning 403 for VPN access no matter what OS you are running.
I cooked up my own VPN and I still get blocked sometimes because it's a data centre IP. For example, Wikipedia blocked the whole /30 range.
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Man they get really up in your business if you arenโt using Chrome and their dinky extension, that I swear he pulled from someoneโs GitHub and rebranded as his own, which all it does is open file links in the file browser.
I made a point by switching my user agent on Zen Browser to report as Chrome, Ubuntu havenโt heard a peep about it yet.
Side note at one point in time the clock-in we use, which is also a web app, had its admin/manager panel exposed to everyone in the company, I reported it and all I got was a thanks.
Atomic zypper gang!! <3
Non-atomic zypper enjoyers here!!!
sudo pacman -Syu
sudo yay
You can just use
yay
, since you will be prompted for your password anyway.
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ssu in config, yay -Syu
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topgrade -y
And my work here is done.
Meanwhile in Fedora:
It is done that way for better reliability. It is optional and not even needed with Silverblue.
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Who even uses apt-get these days?
Yeah apt-get is so old it officially misses packages that apt... gets.
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My experience, updates usually work fine. Dist upgrades work fine 2/3 of the time.
The support for updating to a new version of a distribution is often still a headache. Some distributions donโt support it at all.
This is so cursed.
- Wrong order
- Dont use apt-get in the terminal
- Reboot
Even better:
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y